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Is that what I said? Maybe you should actually take the time to read the comments before posting ridiculous inane posts. Logic is your friend, not your enemy.
And I'm sure you support laws to outlaw people having kids unless they make a certain minimum wage.
And I'm sure that includes veteran benefits, right?
Well I kind of guessed you pay your housemaid very little so that she cannot afford to send her son to school. That sounds like it's not a living wage - and you mentioned cheap labor, but I suspect your servant is cheap labor. Employers that don't pay a living wage are the problem. That includes all employers. Where else can an employee/parent get money besides employment? There's a limit to how many working people should be put on the dole because their employers want to pay so little.
And second, your housemaid may not afford much but what about her husband or the other parent? Maybe they could go halves?
It's really not practical to have the taxpayers always subsidizing the low wage servants and laborers of the elite. We have our own families to support.
I don't know who decided that our problem is not having enough college graduates. Why do people think that one million more graduates annually will improve the economy...
Can someone explain?
Good point.
Here is an interesting list.
Andrew Jackson
William Harrison
Zachary Taylor
Millard Fillmore
Abraham Lincoln
Andrew Johnson
Grover Cleveland
Harry Truman
Guess what they had in common? None of them graduated from college.
Do you think the 'free' education wouldn't come with many strings attached? The supplier of said 'free' education would dictate who, what, where, when and how you 'pay' it back. You don't think they'd allow you to use said 'free' education to further yourself in life do you?
I received free tuition back in Denmark. Please, do educate me on what dictates regarding "who, what, where, when and how" were placed on me. Difficulty level: I'm now putting my skills to good use in country number three since graduation.
I guess that depends on what one feels the role of a university to be. Is it there to crank out as many graduates as possible, or is it there to pass on the torch of civilization? If you're narrowly focused on your little corner of academia, you're hardly what I'd call educated. More like trained.
Well - look at how universities have convinced people that everyone must go to them even if it means life long debt for them or risking their home with a second and third mortgage.
That's the whole problem. Universities ONCE were about passing on the torch of civilization -- but that made them a luxury for the few - the idle rich. And look how many universities fast lower admission standards or have none at all when they smell the easy money.
The university where I live has an whopping 60% of students in remediation. 60% of students taking remedial - high school level - classes. Yes, a university. Unbelieveable isn't it.
Ask yourself why a university would do this? Money. They're in it for the money now. Big easy money because it's the one thing people will sell their souls to have - a university degree for their children.
It's the universities themselves that chose to become glorified trade schools, competing with community colleges. Money is why.
Am I missing something here? Exactly what do we offer to other countries besides the intimidation of our Military and Fake money? What do we produce besides paper money and a good army?
Speak for your self. America offers huge amounts of agricultural products, and development; advanced pharpaceuticals, medical care and technology; leading edge computer hardware, software and Internet capability; world-class educational opportunities, and a political system that is an example for the world. Perhaps you contribute nothing to this effort, but don't stand in the way and criticise those of us who do.
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The jobs and careers that COLLEGE GRADUATES have had the past 30 + years, and the jobs the recent graduates expect ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE. The only jobs are the ones where a high school diploma isn't really even necessary . . .
There's always a job for someone willing to work. Try it and see.
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Take a reality pill and stop listening to idiots that know nothing about the economy . . . .
Originally Posted by wrench409 - "...Do you think the 'free' education wouldn't come with many strings attached? The supplier of said 'free' education would dictate who, what, where, when and how you 'pay' it back. You don't think they'd allow you to use said 'free' education to further yourself in life do you?"
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I received free tuition back in Denmark. Please, do educate me on what dictates regarding "who, what, where, when and how" were placed on me.
The price you will likely pay is to obey the dictate that you will pay for others, just as that was same dictate made upon others as a consequence of that kind of public policy which afforded you that luxury (a luxury with a price tag, and not [just] one exclusively of the monetary kind).
You may be cool with the string attached to such a program which is likely demanded of most, which is nice, and I am glad you are more than happy to pay back in kind so you may benefit others. Other people may not be so appreciative of that price they are asked to pay, if only for the substantive objection that they are not merely being asked to be charitable in a peaceful manner, but are demanded to sacrifice the fruits and derivatives of their prior labor to comply with the demand.
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I received free tuition back in Denmark. Please, do educate me on what dictates regarding "who, what, where, when and how" were placed on me. Difficulty level: I'm now putting my skills to good use in country number three since graduation.
And now you're in LA?
That right there could be a good plan. Let the taxpayers of Denmark and all those superior socialist nations send kids to college for free and then we lure them to the USA like we do with so many.
Well, a lot of people do compare him to Truman. But you really need to do a little reading. He did graduate.
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