Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-13-2011, 01:13 PM
 
1,337 posts, read 1,522,379 times
Reputation: 656

Advertisements

Read of the original incident a while back. This case strikes me as being just as worthless and pernicious as the federal statute making cartoon pornography illegal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-13-2011, 01:20 PM
 
8,624 posts, read 9,087,454 times
Reputation: 2863
Quote:
Originally Posted by maja View Post
Did you see the video? She is half naked and fondling herself. Then the child enters and holds her hand. What's the point? Why is she using a child in this very sexually provocative video?

When it comes to innocent children I doubt you will find any respect for them among the left.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-13-2011, 01:26 PM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,096,009 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by theother View Post
Because it's Lady Gaga.

AKA

Known for her over the top antics for attention..
Being Lady Gaga does not immune one from the law..

I dont think she's doing anything illegal either.. Child porn is THE CHILD being nude, or being positioned in a way to sexually excute people watching.. The child isnt doing either of these..

Poor taste, absolutely.. but not illegal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-13-2011, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
7,835 posts, read 8,438,214 times
Reputation: 8564
  • Guy goes to a grade school and shoots a video of 1st graders watching him perform a song.
  • Videographer is asked to get shots of the children looking surprised and angry.
  • Kids leave the auditorium.
  • Guy records a second song with inappropriate lyrics when no children are present.
  • Guy edits the inappropriate song video by inserting images of the children looking surprised and angry at the inappropriate lyrics.

Definitely fits under the heading of "Not A Good Idea".

What what "crime" did he actually commit?

Was the apparent "point" he was trying to make not a good one, even if executed poorly?

I'm glad they're not making him register as a sex offender. That's a ridiculous overreaction.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-13-2011, 01:27 PM
 
14,917 posts, read 13,098,699 times
Reputation: 4828
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
Being Lady Gaga does not immune one from the law..

I dont think she's doing anything illegal either.. Child porn is THE CHILD being nude, or being positioned in a way to sexually excute people watching.. The child isnt doing either of these..

Poor taste, absolutely.. but not illegal.
What's poor taste about a celebrity taking a photo (or video) with a child?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-13-2011, 01:48 PM
 
3,681 posts, read 6,273,608 times
Reputation: 1516
Quote:
Originally Posted by ♪♫♪♪♫♫♪♥ View Post
And for a change of pace, let's be realistic and reasonable for a moment. By quoting this article, you and the author are both implying that she was "fondling her breast, licking her bicep, attempting to pull her t-shirt down over her lady parts, and seductively straddling a skateboard between her legs" WHILE the child was physically present and witnessing. Well let's take a look...

Hmmm, I don't see a boy in that lewd equation, I see him in an equation where a woman and child are just holding hands. Whether you admit to this or not, neither you nor I nor anyone else can know that for a fact what this boy did or didn't see. For all we know, she could've stopped the racy antics while the child was present. Or maybe not, but like I've said, no one can make a concrete conclusion from that video alone.
I guess one could claim the same of the guy in Michigan. The children weren't directly involved in the described sexually explicit video, but they were added as a "prop," afterward. I don't think its right. Whether its deemed child porn, we will have to wait and see. If this type of thing is allowed, what prevents anyone from taking photos of any child on the net and transposing them in any type of sexual scene and distributing it?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-13-2011, 01:48 PM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,096,009 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by hammertime33 View Post
What's poor taste about a celebrity taking a photo (or video) with a child?
Its in very poor taste for an individual to be feeling themself up and putting their hands down their pants in clip A, and then holding a little child in the next clip.. Clearly you didnt watch the video..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YszyHUQVYeI
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-13-2011, 02:02 PM
 
14,917 posts, read 13,098,699 times
Reputation: 4828
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
Its in very poor taste for an individual to be feeling themself up and putting their hands down their pants in clip A, and then holding a little child in the next clip.. Clearly you didnt watch the video..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YszyHUQVYeI
I did watch the clip. The clip shows nothing inappropriate whatsoever happening involving the child. All we have is an image of Lady Gaga holding the boy's hand. What the hell is wrong with that?

Did you edit this clip together? Did Lady Gaga edit this clip together? The clip is clearly an edited chronicling of the photo shoot. It's shows video clips of the photographer, it shows video clips of the photographer's crew, it shows video clips of the product (Supreme skateboards), it shows video clips of the model (Lady Gaga), and it shows video clips of the photographer photographing the model.

The only thing this chronicle tells us about the kid is that at some point Lady Gaga held his hand and they (presumably) took a picture together.

You don't know the circumstance surrounding that interaction. Neither do I. Perhaps at the end of the photo shoot the owner of Supreme Skateboards said "Hey Ms. Gaga, my wife is in the office with my son. Would you mind taking a picture with him before you go?"

All I know is that nothing in this clip showing anything inappropriate. Certainly nothing even remotely close to child porn.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-13-2011, 02:05 PM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,096,009 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by hammertime33 View Post
I did watch the clip. The clip shows nothing inappropriate whatsoever happening involving the child. All we have is an image of Lady Gaga holding the boy's hand. What the hell is wrong with that?
Never suggested anything was inappropriate with the child, which is why I said its poor taste.. not illegal..
Quote:
Originally Posted by hammertime33 View Post
Did you edit this clip together? Did Lady Gaga edit this clip together? The clip is clearly an edited chronicling of the photo shoot. It's shows video clips of the photographer, it shows video clips of the photographer's crew, it shows video clips of the product (Supreme skateboards), it shows video clips of the model (Lady Gaga), and it shows video clips of the photographer photographing the model.

The only thing this chronicle tells us about the kid is that at some point Lady Gaga held his hand and they (presumably) took a picture together.
Might might conclude by the flashes going off while she's holding his hand would mean photos being taken.. I know.. Thats a leap considering they were in a photo shoot.. As for who put the clips together, clearly it was someone present..
Quote:
Originally Posted by hammertime33 View Post
You don't know the circumstance surrounding that interaction. Neither do I. Perhaps the owner of Supreme Skateboards, at the end of the photo shoot said "Hey Ms. Gaga, my wife is in the office with my son. Would you mind taking a picture with him before you go?"

All I know is that nothing in this clip showing anything inappropriate. Certainly nothing even remotely close to child porn.
Again, I didnt say anything was inappropriate, I said its in poor taste..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-13-2011, 02:18 PM
 
14,917 posts, read 13,098,699 times
Reputation: 4828
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
Never suggested anything was inappropriate with the child, which is why I said its poor taste.. not illegal..

Might might conclude by the flashes going off while she's holding his hand would mean photos being taken.. I know.. Thats a leap considering they were in a photo shoot.. As for who put the clips together, clearly it was someone present..

Again, I didnt say anything was inappropriate, I said its in poor taste..
Fair enough. My tastes do not include Lady Gaga or her "art".

However, I don't find it bad taste to take some somewhat sexually suggestive photos and then 5 minutes later pose for a picture with a kid. I don't find it tasteless to chronicle a photo shoot. If she took a picture with a kid during the photo shoot, what's wrong with including that fact in a video chronicle of the event?

Again, I'm no fan of Lady Gaga, but had I a been a crew member on that photo shoot and my son was close by, I might have asked Lady Gaga to take a picture with him. He'd probably get a huge kick out of it in 5 years.


Also, I highly doubt Lady Gaga had anything whatsoever to do with this particular minute long video chronicle. If you find it to be tasteless or vulgar, perhaps you should save your scorn for whoever edited the clip.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:07 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top