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I guess the great private sector class doesn't use public services. The tea party will pay for this. You will see.
The private sector who PAYS the salaries and benefits of the public is FAR larger.
As for "paying for it," I am not a TP member, but won't hold my breath. This whole exercise was simply to begin re-balancing the levers of power away from the public employee unions and their corrupt, self-serving, pliant politicians.
The days of the public employee retiring in their 40s or 50s, spiking COLA-adjusted pensions, free health care for life - those days are now OVER.
The tea party is about enslavement of the working class for the rich that think like the koch brothers. The 14 Dem's are trying to fight back for the workers against the tea party. Trying to stop them from enslaving the people.
What Is Parliamentary Procedure? It is a set of rules for conduct at meetings, that allows everyone to be heard and to make decisions without confusion. Why is Parliamentary Procedure Important? Because it's a time tested method of conducting business at meetings and public gatherings. It can be adapted to fit the needs of any organization. Today, Robert's Rules of Order newly revised is the basic handbook of operation for most clubs, organizations and other groups. So it's important that everyone know these basic rules! Organizations using parliamentary procedure usually follow a fixed order of business. Below is a typical example:
Call to order.
Roll call of members present.
If you arent present.. your vote doesnt count.. Clearly you Democrats what these representative votes to count do you not?
While that may be satisfying to you, the reality is that the Democratic senators aren't the ones being punished, their constituents are. And that's an injustice.
Their constituents voted these pieces of trash into office, and if enough of them had called their offices while they were sunbathing in IL sipping martinis to get their a$$es back to WI, this issue would not have come up.
They arent there until the next roll call... Unless of course you would rather they be arrested on a bech warrant which would probably be illegal and would deem anything voted on as null and void... Is that what you prefer?
The fact that the people elected the Democratic senators to represent them is meaningless to the topic.. You cant force people to represent you if they dont wish to.. For example.. if we all elect Mickey Mouse to represent us, does this mean Mickey Mouse can appear and actually represent us? We are a nation of laws, and laws need to be followed. In order to elect someone, that someone must actually want the job... We cant arrest people after we elect them for not doing the job they were elected to do.. Is that what you would prefer?
No one preferented them from doign the job they were elected to do but themself. All actions have consequences, and you just cant ignore the law because you wish to. Would you rather someone come along and sue to have all votes thrown out because rules werent followed?
I think that if they aren't there until the next roll call, then I would review Chapter 8 of the Senate's rules, and have the court adjudicate the validity of any actions taken (including the passage of legislation) between those roll calls. Because I think a darn good case could be made that it isn't.
Well, I hope Wisconsin stops collecting state taxes until this matter is settled.
No taxation without representation.
If the people will not be represented, they should pay no taxes.
Nope! The Dems were elected and chose to desert their responsibility. Those who elected them need to recall and replace them with representatives who will take their responsibilities seriously and quit this childish foolishness of getting mad and throwing a temper tantrum like a little kid when they are on the losing side.
Their constituents voted these pieces of trash into office, and if enough of them had called their offices while they were sunbathing in IL sipping martinis to get their a$$es back to WI, this issue would not have come up.
So it's okay with you that constituents should be stripped of their representation at the whim of the majority party?????
The constituents didn't do anything wrong, except vote for someone you don't like.
In the United States of America, that is not enough reason for them to lose their legislative representation, for any period of time.
I think that if they aren't there until the next roll call, then I would review Chapter 8 of the Senate's rules, and have the court adjudicate the validity of any actions taken (including the passage of legislation) between those roll calls. Because I think a darn good case could be made that it isn't.
States dont operate under federal Senate rules. Wisconsin state constitution allows bills to be passed that are not financial in matter, with a majority.. They got their majority.. In order for the financial matters now to be discussed, those previous members who WERE NOT PRESENT, must be deemed present, then their votes count.. Until they are deemed present, they cant vote..
So it's okay with you that constituents should be stripped of their representation at the whim of the majority party?????
Isnt that what the recall is about? Stripping constituents of their representation?
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The constituents didn't do anything wrong, except vote for someone you don't like.
Isnt that what the recall is about? Stripping constituents of their representation?
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In the United States of America, that is not enough reason for them to lose their legislative representation, for any period of time.
No one is trying to strip the Democrats of their legislative representation.. Its Democrats trying to strip the Republicans of theirs.. Democrats will be allowed to vote SOON AS THEY ARE DEEMED PRESENT..
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