Proud To Be Liberal - Why Liberal values are American values (interview, Mexican)

[texanborn]

" Proud To Be Liberal - Why Liberal values are American values"

I don't really know what to say about that statement.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by BigHouse9

Health care costs began to rise in the 60's when the government got involved in the health care business.

More Ron Paul propaganda. Does anyone notice that Pharma is using the big profits to make medicines that have very bad side effects. Would you take Detrol LA with the side effects of dry mouth, dry eyes, headache, upset stomach, constipation, and blurred vision. The last one just got me.

Just listen to the TV commercials and listen carefully to the side effects (don't get distracted by other parts of the commercial).

[KAINTUCK]

I waded through the propaganda piece. Sometimes I ran with laughter, sometimes, I choked back the tears, sometimes I had to fight the urge to throw up.
"I am from the government and I am here to help you".

[Agility]

So after reading this, Amercian vaules consist of doing what you "feel". So if someone wanted to have sex in the street they could because they are expressing themselves. Ok a little extreme, but you have to cap it somewhere. Basically the gist is to run America into debt and live "free" right? I am not even going into the bs that is Affirmative Action.

[bily4]

Originally Posted by Agility

Basically the gist is to run America into debt and live "free" right?

Ask your president - that is what he babbles about every night on the news, and he is doing a nice job of running our country into debt.

[Agility]

he's not mine.

Doubt Hillary and Obama would do much better, they were pro war.......
maybe Ron Paul will who knows.....

[Agility]

Originally Posted by Toninole

I am a proud liberal, too.

To me it means trying to make the world a better, safer, more tolerant place for my children. It doesn't mean I'm trying to take anything away from other people that I am not also willing to give.

If that makes me a terrible person then I guess I can accept that. I'm happy that I'm not walking around afraid of gays, angry with illegals, worried about gun control, terrified of muslims, and holding on to my money with a death grip. If that works for you - awesome. I'm happy for you. If you can convince the majority of Americans that you are right - great. If not, we win.

Ya you are right. Why be angry with illegals? We should open our borders to everyone and not document them. Who cares if they are criminals,carry diseases, or destroy social services. Let them all be here, its there right as humans to come to any country they want, when they want and not pay taxes

[bily4]

Originally Posted by Agility

Ya you are right. Why be angry with illegals? We should open our borders to everyone and not document them. Who cares if they are criminals,carry diseases, or destroy social services. Let them all be here, its there right as humans to come to any country they want, when they want and not pay taxes

That is ridiculous garbage. That Lou Dobbs piece was completely false about disease, and ignorant people run with it. Show me your statistics for illegal criminality and disease if you are going to spout this trash.

You don't like them here? Then go after the people that employ them. And you better getter an official guest worker program in place quick if you want the menial jobs in our society to get done.

[Nea1]

Originally Posted by bily4

That is ridiculous garbage. That Lou Dobbs piece was completely false about disease, and ignorant people run with it. Show me your statistics for illegal criminality and disease if you are going to spout this trash.

You don't like them here? Then go after the people that employ them. And you better getter an official guest worker program in place quick if you want the menial jobs in our society to get done.

Statistics about immigration
Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Diseases

Since it would take to long to post all the statistics on it, just go to those two, they have already compiled it.

[bily4]

Originally Posted by Nea1

Statistics about immigration
Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Diseases

Since it would take to long to post all the statistics on it, just go to those two, they have already compiled it.

Sorry - show me real statistics from mainstream news or academic reviews, not these jokes that people up in immigration forum land love to toss around in their daily hatefest.

According to the Justice Department, 6 percent of prisoners in this country are noncitizens (compared with 7 percent of the population). For a variety of reasons, the crime rate is actually lower among immigrants than natives.

http://ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/pjim05.pdf

Lou Dobbs tried to say there are thousands of illegal lepers coming over, which has been proven to be complete BS as well.