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Old 12-19-2014, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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This whole idiotic screed has been fueled by the media and as you have pointed out was prominent during the early Bush years. My liberal family and friends lapped that nonsense up and the scary part was some of them were college educated
What is a bummer is that some posters on the right have entered the same lobotomy room and were sarcastically thanking Obama for the price of gas at 3.89 and now find themselves in a box now that the price is 2.29. As Gump would say " stupid is what stupid does"
Even on this thread right wingers are doing the 'but....but....but the libs did it too'.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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This whole idiotic screed has been fueled by the media and as you have pointed out was prominent during the early Bush years. My liberal family and friends lapped that nonsense up and the scary part was some of them were college educated
What is a bummer is that some posters on the right have entered the same lobotomy room and were sarcastically thanking Obama for the price of gas at 3.89 and now find themselves in a box now that the price is 2.29. As Gump would say " stupid is what stupid does"
Exactly right. No doubt that many conservatives did fall for the nonsense when energy prices spiked early in Obama's presidency. OTOH Obama did have openly anti-energy policies, and still does. But energy prices are largely a function of supply/demand factors. There is no secret dial underneath the President's desk, whether Bush or Obama.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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It's basically one of those let's find something to criticize / praise the President for.

The President has nothing to do with gas prices.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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It's basically one of those let's find something to criticize / praise the President for.

The President has nothing to do with gas prices.

AND the lower prices are NOT the result of anything he has done or has not done.
Nice try, obamabots, but no prize.
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: 22 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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potus/congress has nothing to do with the lowering/raising of oil,,,,,opec sets oil prices


but potus/congress can effect higher prices through taxes/fees/epa rules and regs
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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AND the lower prices are NOT the result of anything he has done or has not done.
Nice try, obamabots, but no prize.
Basically. It goes both ways.

This is nothing but finger pointing.

Though, the President (and Congress) do deserve some praise for increasing the global supply of oil while simultaneously decreasing our consumption of it (FE standards), which did indeed drop the price.
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:43 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Gas prices are lower than they have been in years. Being that Republicans credited Obama with the rise of gas prices, will they give him the credit he deserves?









No, because while Obummer's policies did cause the rise in gas prices, they have nothing to do with falling prices because he has not changed his policies in any way.

Prices are falling now in spite of Obummer, because of fracking, and other factors which are a result of market forces.

Has Obama opened any more land to drilling? Has he authorized any new offshore drilling? Quite the opposite.
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:45 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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2.05 today. Thanks, Mr. President!
What do you think Obama had to do with that?
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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No, because while Obummer's policies did cause the rise in gas prices, they have nothing to do with falling prices because he has not changed his policies in any way.

Prices are falling now in spite of Obummer, because of fracking, and other factors which are a result of market forces.

Has Obama opened any more land to drilling? Has he authorized any new offshore drilling? Quite the opposite.
As for your last question, how about this:

Obama Opened Floodgates for Offshore Fracking in Recent Gulf of Mexico Lease | DeSmogBlog

Or, this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/us...-oil.html?_r=0
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:59 AM
 
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What do you think Obama had to do with that?
Same thing he had to do with it when gas was >$4 / gallon.

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