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Old 03-29-2011, 11:14 PM
 
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Well, if the next thing your gonna say is we need to raise taxes on the rich to cover expenses then I'm just one hell of a mind reader.
The rich? What rich are left in NYC? Do you have any idea how many hedge funds and WS employees have left NYC, including the banks themselves?

NYC is going to be bankrupt - worse than in '74, and soon. Know why? Because back then we had a diversified set of industries like manufacturing and printing to rely upon besides WS - no longer.

But you keep pulling those spiked pensions, free healthcare for the puerto rican/latin american boat parade at NYU medical center on 1st avenue all the way up into the 80s, and those fat pensions for 250,000 retirees - with another almost 400,000 on the payroll, yeah, you see how long that house of cards is going to hold up.

Ever wonder WTF NYC has so many hospitals? Ever think that deeply?

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Old 03-29-2011, 11:20 PM
 
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What are you- did you read his post? If you are going to cut on public school you're most likey not from there. shocking stuff I know
I went to the NYC public schools, BOTH of my parents worked for the NYC public schools, and my kids go to the NYC public schools.

So yes, I know what the NYC public schools are like - and they suck. Badly. And Randi Weingarten and Mulgrew are the scum of humanity, and deserve a fate worse than death. I am VERY angry right now that the legislature and the lowlifes like sheldon silver - the bought and paid for prostitute of NYSUT - did not eliminate the criminal notion of LIFO, a goal desired by over 90% of NYC residents.

And you and the other public union defenders have the gall to talk about freedom? Where is mine and every other parents' freedom from the lowlife teachers' unions who have no interest in teaching my kids - but have a HUGE interest in fattening their salaries and benefits?

And BTW, the public schools in crown heights utterly suck, so perhaps you should be a bit smarter about defending them...

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Old 03-29-2011, 11:29 PM
 
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Collective bargaining is a privilege, not a right.
Government employment is a privilege, not a right.
Overburdened taxpayers are underprivileged.

What freedom is involved when extortion and mob action is used to COERCE the duly elected public servants?

That's MOB RULE, intimidation, and extortion - nothing to do with freedom - unless it is FREEDOM to use government to rob the taxpayers more.

Now, if the taxpayers had the FREEDOM to not pay taxes...
Great post.

Do not believe for a second that I, and many other business owners, are near the breaking point with a lot of things in this country - particularly paying ever higher taxes for free healthcare for illegal aliens reducing the salaries and standards of living for legal americans, along with obscene growth in government spending, especially for public union workers.

If this crap does not stop soon, you are going to see people like me simply refuse to pay our quarterly estimates, and then the government is DOA.

If the filth of humanity like sheldon silver, and others like him across the nation do not start to massively reduce government spending, get the illegals out, eliminate public unions, and end the rampant corruption, you will start to see the country come apart at the seams, starting with non-payment of taxes.

The feds/states cannot arrest everyone not paying their taxes, so it will lead to a new civil war/revolution.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: OKC
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Public employees have the power of the vote. They don't need a union against the taxpayers.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:35 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Public employees have the power of the vote. They don't need a union against the taxpayers.
The power of the vote is only for the total citizenry addressing general issues, not to address working conditions of a particular job. Every worker public or private has a right to influence his/her immediate working environment.
You think the citizens' vote will address a grievance such as safety, discrimination, unfair firing?
BTW I'm just as much a taxpayer as you, and the public employees are not "against" me!
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:38 PM
 
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Agree with them or not they have the right to protest peacefully. That is why this country is so great. Imagine this in Libya
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