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Old 03-18-2011, 12:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ceece View Post
This technology is a fact of life and isn't going to go away. "stealing" can't really apply, or needs to be redifined if you think it does, and business can't be done the way it's always been done. It's a new world people.
I'd agree, the media companies are their own worse enemies but we still need reasonable protection for those producing content.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Classic federal overreach.
And love the use of the term "pirate" as if anyone who downloads a vid or mp3 is the moral equivalent of a bloodthirsty murderer and rapist.Mmm more kool aid and group think please.
You've all been duped by an ever expanding and predatory gov.

Yep. Govt. strikes again!!
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:36 AM
 
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Actually copyright law isn't all that complicated. Patent law, now that's a whole different matter.



What part of this is so hard to understand?

Look, you are missing the point big time. I understand just like you that the intellectual property of a person should not be stolen. What you don't understand is THIS IS NOT THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!! If an IP owner want's to protect his work IT'S UP TO HIM/HER to find the technology to prevent the theft.

It's because of basic ignorance like this that we are all in big trouble..
Another way govt dishonestly intrudes at the price of people going to jail.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Frank, how is it possible that so many people are capable of dressing themselves ... tying their own shoes .... driving automobiles ... operating computers ... and yet not possess the intellectual capacity of an earthworm?

I'm really losing hope for the future. And it's not just the staggering level of stupidity ... it is also the callousness and arrogance that comes with it.

And we have people joking about the disaster unfolding in Japan ... Rush Limpjaw, and Glenn Beck laughing ..... we have that LA News Anchor Woman yesterday questioning how this disaster will impact the availability of sushi for crying out loud!!! Sushi? That's what this numskull finds so concerning?

But Jesus ... we've also got a large number of people who haven't got a clue about what is really important ... or really have much of a clue about anything.

Sometimes I wonder to myself if the Elitists who want to reduce the world population by 90% don't have some rational basis for their obvious disdain for the human race. I hate to admit that ... but some people really beg for such potential considerations.

I definitely feel you on this. Tell me about it. Stupidity, callousness, arrogance... exactly. I feel sorry for the thinking people who are totally drowning is a sea of mass doses of arrogance and ignorance.

I have noticed though that these people will never understand language like yours or any of the intellectuals. I firmly believe that unless the intellectuals realize that they can't talk so high over the heads of people.. --that they'd better start being able to explain in very simple terms.. or else the majority of dumb will never get it.

In fact the reason they understand Rush is because the don't actually listen to what he says.. they just only blindly follow how he says it..(arrogant bully I know it all tone)
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:29 AM
 
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..(arrogant bully I know it all tone)

LOL... the bolded is epitomized by your post.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:35 AM
 
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LOL... the bolded is epitomized by your post.

yea I've really got Rush beat.. lol
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:44 AM
 
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Look, you are missing the point big time. I understand just like you that the intellectual property of a person should not be stolen. What you don't understand is THIS IS NOT THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!! If an IP owner want's to protect his work IT'S UP TO HIM/HER to find the technology to prevent the theft.
Uh no it isn't. Government needs to get involved, because Copyright matters is a FEDERAL issue. That means the IP owners have to take their complaint to a federal court to get ramifications.

And if technology can't keep up with the stealers, what is an ip owner to do? Wait while his/her stuff gets distributed for FREE until he/she is able to use a technoloyg that will only be hacked within 24 hours of having it be released (every time Apple makes an update to their iOS for their Iphone, not a day later there is already a rootkit available to download)

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It's because of basic ignorance like this that we are all in big trouble..
Another way govt dishonestly intrudes at the price of people going to jail.
Its not ignorance. Unfortunately, the laws of this country ARE Too slow for the technological advances


Work 4 years of your life that you made, and see how you feel when after you release it for sale, someone has posted the entire movie/software/etc on a torrent site.
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:56 AM
 
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Uh no it isn't. Government needs to get involved, because Copyright matters is a FEDERAL issue. That means the IP owners have to take their complaint to a federal court to get ramifications.

And if technology can't keep up with the stealers, what is an ip owner to do? Wait while his/her stuff gets distributed for FREE until he/she is able to use a technoloyg that will only be hacked within 24 hours of having it be released (every time Apple makes an update to their iOS for their Iphone, not a day later there is already a rootkit available to download)



Its not ignorance. Unfortunately, the laws of this country ARE Too slow for the technological advances


Work 4 years of your life that you made, and see how you feel when after you release it for sale, someone has posted the entire movie/software/etc on a torrent site.
I've already worked 15 years and have had my intellectual property stolen.. The point is simple.. --The govt. is not getting involved to help you-- They are getting invovled to hurt everyone and help themselves.

I don't know the way to protect IP. But Govt. IS NOT IT.

In fact, you said it yourself .. govt. laws SLOW technological advances.
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:16 AM
 
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I've already worked 15 years and have had my intellectual property stolen.. The point is simple.. --The govt. is not getting involved to help you-- They are getting invovled to hurt everyone and help themselves.

I don't know the way to protect IP. But Govt. IS NOT IT.

In fact, you said it yourself .. govt. laws SLOW technological advances.

which is why the govt needs to be there so that they can enact the laws needed. yes they are slow, but the laws they can enact can help in the sense it doesnt' HAVE TO BE technology based. By redefining how piracy is illegal in the digital, it won't matter what technology is used to obtain the material or distribute it illegally. Just the act itself is punishable.

now if our laws could stretch to cover where most of the piracy happens (China, Africa, South America) then it wouldn't be an issue
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Old 03-18-2011, 02:53 AM
 
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The big problem for large media companies is digital files destroy the long time business model of selling you the same thing over and over again. Vinyl >> 8 track >> Cassette >> CD. Even a CD has shelf life but if have someone like me who keeps them tucked way and just plays the MP3's they will never make another dime off me. I've amassed a large collection of CD's and I rarely buy any more. The gravy train is ended, the only choice to continue this practice is things like DRM.

The major issue I've always had and why the RIAA and MPAA get little sympathy from me is because of their consistent attempts to stifle technology. For those old enough you know that all tape players always had a record function, the same would be true of CD players except there is "tax" applied to standalone CD recorders that goes to the RIAA making them more expensive. If you ever wondered what is the difference between a "audio" CD and regualr CD, the audio CD also has a tax applied to it. Stand alone recorders will reject any CD without this label. This same tax was applied to DAT format tape decks which preceded CD's which is actually better than CD format. This tax is one reason cited for possibly causing it's failure.

So now I have to pay extra to benefit RIAA members to make recordings?

They tried to get same thing applied to MP3 players, CD/DVD burners in computers and have fought tooth and nail any type of device that you can record with going back to the VCR's. None of this tehnology would be in the hands of common people if they had their way.
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