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View Poll Results: Federally backed housing, what do you think?
YES. Get rid of it ALL. If you can't afford market rate rent, you're homeless. If you're homeless during a winter storm, YOU DIE. 24 43.64%
While it's debatable how much assistance we should provide, we SHOULD provide some housing relief to the low income and homeless. 31 56.36%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-17-2011, 03:09 PM
 
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Should the government provide ZERO financial aid in the way of housing shelters for the homeless and low income subsidies for housing?

As in, remove ALL requirements, all across the country, for builders to provide a certain percentage of their apartments for low income housing (federally subsidized by the government) and eliminate section 8 subsidies.

Also, get rid of ALL programs that make sure the homeless are housed during summer heatwaves and winter cold snaps.

What do you think?
We should eliminate any federal program that can not be justified by the Constitution.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Sure, if you see a bunch of guys just standing around smoking cigarettes...

You could be near a shelter.
We don't have any shelters in my neck of the woods. We do have a private (???) outfit that dispenses food when they have some.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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Well, it's too bad we can't ask Hitler. He was a true right wing visionary who could solve some of societies worst social problems with such straight forward solutions. We just need to give it some time but I'm sure we'll see the political void that has been created by our two "opposing"(wink) political parties being filled by someone who will make der Furher look like a real piker................
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:35 PM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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Why not just round up all of the poor, mentally ill and homeless and just kill them.
Have you considered ovens?

It would eliminate what so many of you see as a problem.
Nah, I don't care for ovens. I was thinking maybe public hangings or firing squad.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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I don't answer polls with loaded questions. What a crap poll from the OP, worded to solicit the "right" response.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:49 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What is inaccurate about my choices? What happens to a 72 year old war vet who has to sleep on the street during a east coast snow storm?

A war vet gets a pension. My dad does.

At 72 your home is usually paid off by then. Property taxes are the big payment.

A war vet has endured and survived harsher conditions, with very little.
72 year old? My dad at 81 could survive in the wilderness with only a pocket knife.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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I refuse to vote in polls where the OP feels the need to create these extremely ignorant choices instead of a simple YES or NO.
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Majin View Post
Should the government provide ZERO financial aid in the way of housing shelters for the homeless and low income subsidies for housing?

As in, remove ALL requirements, all across the country, for builders to provide a certain percentage of their apartments for low income housing (federally subsidized by the government) and eliminate section 8 subsidies.

Also, get rid of ALL programs that make sure the homeless are housed during summer heatwaves and winter cold snaps.

What do you think?

I think that NO ONE has the right to tell ANYONE that they must 'help' ANYONE... ESPECIALLY THE GOVERNMENT with YOUR money.
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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After working on staff at the Palm Beach County Commission on Affordable Housing, and the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development, I can tell you from personal experience that "affordable housing" is a huge feeding frenzy by developers who get rich off of tax money, as well as those who milk the government for all the money they can get to pay for all their fatherless children.

The corruption and graft was so immense that I was so disgusted I had to quit jobs that were very well paid and with generous benefits (as most public jobs are). Though I gave away tax dollars in many different ways, I only encountered one person who wasn't simply taking advantage of free money, and who was actually deserving of help (this person was taking care of a disabled mother and was disabled herself; unlike the rest of our applicants who qualified for assistance because they didn't work, and were single-parent mothers with 4 or more children). This person would have been fine without the programs, since she borrowed a token amount and paid it back within a few months, though she wasn't expected to. Everyone else (inner-city minorities who were well-versed in every government giveaway out there) took the full $5,000 award and never thought to pay it back.

Since these programs were paid for with a County tax on recorded mortgages, my family paid over $1,000 in this particular "extra" tax when we bought our first house, and another $900 when we re-financed to get a much better interest rate. I found this appalling, when I knew the type of people who were getting large cash awards for help with their housing, and none of them actually worked for a living.

HUD employees there were a disgrace to public employees everywhere; I'd never been to a government office where all employees had TVs on their desks and watched it all day. I'd also never heard of a government office where employees could be caught stealing government money, and not even lose their jobs. Or one where the Director could trade large affordable housing grants to developers in return for free luxury apartments for the Director's adult children in said development (they mixed luxury housing with a few "affordable" units).

All levels of government need to stop giving away taxpayer dollars; all it does is enslave working people for the benefit of the lowest scum in society. If everyone had a chance to work in offices that gave away taxpayer's dollars, we'd have a lot more Libertarians and a lot less liberals out there.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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After working on staff at the Palm Beach County Commission on Affordable Housing, and the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development, I can tell you from personal experience that "affordable housing" is a huge feeding frenzy by developers who get rich off of tax money, as well as those who milk the government for all the money they can get to pay for all their fatherless children.

The corruption and graft was so immense that I was so disgusted I had to quit jobs that were very well paid and with generous benefits (as most public jobs are). Though I gave away tax dollars in many different ways, I only encountered one person who wasn't simply taking advantage of free money, and who was actually deserving of help (this person was taking care of a disabled mother and was disabled herself; unlike the rest of our applicants who qualified for assistance because they didn't work, and were single-parent mothers with 4 or more children). This person would have been fine without the programs, since she borrowed a token amount and paid it back within a few months, though she wasn't expected to. Everyone else (inner-city minorities who were well-versed in every government giveaway out there) took the full $5,000 award and never thought to pay it back.

Since these programs were paid for with a County tax on recorded mortgages, my family paid over $1,000 in this particular "extra" tax when we bought our first house, and another $900 when we re-financed to get a much better interest rate. I found this appalling, when I knew the type of people who were getting large cash awards for help with their housing, and none of them actually worked for a living.

HUD employees there were a disgrace to public employees everywhere; I'd never been to a government office where all employees had TVs on their desks and watched it all day. I'd also never heard of a government office where employees could be caught stealing government money, and not even lose their jobs. Or one where the Director could trade large affordable housing grants to developers in return for free luxury apartments for the Director's adult children in said development (they mixed luxury housing with a few "affordable" units).

All levels of government need to stop giving away taxpayer dollars; all it does is enslave working people for the benefit of the lowest scum in society. If everyone had a chance to work in offices that gave away taxpayer's dollars, we'd have a lot more Libertarians and a lot less liberals out there.
It's great to hear this from someone like you who has been there..
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