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Old 03-17-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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CHANGE...

Change was promoted - but he never specified towards what we are going to change.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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Assuming this is even true of which it could be... this is federal government at its worst. Read the tenth amendment.
If its not in the Constitution as a power to regulate driving habits its left to the states and or the people.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Driving is local issue not a federal issue!!
Unbelievable.
Exactly.

What part of the 10th Amendement do big government proponents fail to comprehend? All of it?
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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A Balanced Budget Amendment is a must or we die as a nation.
Several States have passed this. I think if 38 States do so, it triggers a Constitutional Convention.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:01 PM
 
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... or not:
"Getting their first driver's license is a seminal moment in the lives of most teenagers. But the federal government -- not the states -- could soon be telling kids when they can get behind the wheel."
Glad to see our representatives (I use that term loosely) hard at work to take care of the unprecedented challenges facing our country right now. 'Cuz we all know that the driving age in South Dakota is the biggest problem our country is looking at.

As usual, they're bribing the states by threatening to pull their highway funding:
"Under the proposed rules, each state will have a three-year window to bring their driving policies in line with the federal standards or face losing up to 10 percent of their federal highway funding."
Typical.

Once again, the federal government is trying to force a one-size-fits-all law on a nation that's as geographically and culturally diverse as anyplace in the world. When are they going to learn that with most things, doing that is a Bad Thing™? I mean, it's worked amazingly well with education , so I can see why they would want to apply that to everything, but at some point we need to ask our officials, "WTF are you doing?!?"

This madness must stop.

U.S. Lawmakers Weigh Putting Brakes on State Age Limits for Teen Drivers
I remember when the federal Transportation Department threatened my state with a partial defunding of federal highway money, unless WI lowered the limit of BAC for drunk drivers.

It's a vicious circle, they overtax the people in the states, and then hold this diverted tax money over their heads unless states buckle to the whims and desires of this quasi-fourth branch of government.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Swagger which lobbyist introduced this legislation?
Lobbyists don't introduce legislation. Back to civics 101 for you.

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Any chance it's the insurance industry lobbyists absorbing too many losses from irresponsible young drivers? If it is the case, do they have a legitimate petition to the government or not?
Sure, they can talk to the government, but - if it's the case - the government has a responsibility to be transparent about WHY they're introducing the bill. The stated reason is to reduce driving related deaths.

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The transparency Obama promised would be very nice indeed.
It sure would. As would adherence to the Constitution, repealing the tax increases he signed into law ("not one dime"), not signing legislation that had to be passed using parlor tricks, etc. I agree complete that Obama has been a real disappointment. That's for another thread, though. Please stick to the topic.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I remember when the federal Transportation Department threatened my state with a partial defunding of federal highway money, unless WI lowered the limit of BAC for drunk drivers.
Yep, that's how they got .08% to be a national standard. Same with the drinking age being 21 - I think Hawaii was the last holdout on that one.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:31 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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A Balanced Budget Amendment is a must or we die as a nation.
Try telling that to this government.
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Old 03-18-2011, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Exeter, NH
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Assuming this is even true of which it could be... this is federal government at its worst. Read the tenth amendment. If its not in the Constitution as a power to regulate driving habits its left to the states and or the people. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Driving is local issue not a federal issue!! Unbelievable.
Of course, nobody would have thought forcing Americans to buy an expensive product from for-profit Big Businesses was within the power of the federal government either, but that didn't stop Washington politicians from passing Obamacare (while exempting themselves, their staffs, and favored contributors like organized unions from same).
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