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Old 03-19-2011, 10:40 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I'm in awe.

The right is against another war
And the left is for another war.
Seems so....it is an amazing coincidence that the left supports such wars when their party is in power but not when their party is not....
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:40 PM
 
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I'm in awe.

The right is against another war
And the left is for another war.
My mind might explode. I mean really? We're ****ed.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:41 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Because I'm in favor of supporting our allies in the region who asked us to help stop the mass bloodshed in their backyard, that stands to destabilize the entire region.
Are you referring to the killing of civilians in Bahrain,Iraq,Syria,and Yemen?

Or just in Libya....

Do you see any problems with the selective use of civilian bloodshed as an excuse?

Probably not.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:42 PM
 
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Seems so....it is an amazing coincidence that the left supports such wars when their party is in power but not when their party is not....
Wrong again. Are you even reading our responses to you?!?

A vast majority of liberals supported invading Afghanistan when Republicans controlled the House, Senate, and Presidency.

Opposing 1 war based on lies does not mean liberals suddenly oppose all invasions.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:43 PM
 
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Im torn on this. On the one hand.. why get involved in yet another conflict.

On the other hand.. he was commiting "genocide" on his own citizens and claiming they were not being victimized.

Plus there's that old shoot down a Pan Am jet over Scotland thing.

As long as the US is involved in using missiles to knock down strategic targets and let the Brits, Canadians, the French and whomever else wants to patrol the no fly zone.. and indiscriminate killings of civilians stops.. there are occassions when getting involved seem justified.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:44 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The leftists here support attacking Libya,a nation that in no way threatened the USA,because of the civil war going on there and the civilian deaths.

However this reason for attacking another nation (without any provocation) doesn't apply to other nations....

But there is no hypocrisy on their part.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:44 PM
 
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Are you referring to the killing of civilians in Bahrain,Iraq,Syria,and Yemen?

Or just in Libya....

Do you see any problems with the selective use of civilian bloodshed as an excuse?

Probably not.
Did you not read the part about there being broader political, economic, cost, and risk considerations when these issues arise? It's not pretty, but it's reality.

This thread is frustrating because you seem to have locked in an idea. We prove your idea to be wrong, and then you come back with the same idea, completely ignoring what we wrote.

It's very disrespectful.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:46 PM
 
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We need men like George W Bush. In 2000 he campaigned on no nation building. We wouldn't be in this mess if he was running things.
True. We'd have troops on Libyan soil right now and the checkbook would be wide open spending.
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:46 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Im torn on this. On the one hand.. why get involved in yet another conflict.

On the other hand.. he was commiting "genocide" on his own citizens and claiming they were not being victimized.
He was acting just like our allies in Yemen,Bahrain and Iraq(the current government).

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Plus there's that old shoot down a Pan Am jet over Scotland thing.
A bit difficult to drag that up considering the US gov. swept it all under the rug.

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As long as the US is involved in using missiles to knock down strategic targets and let the Brits, Canadians, the French and whomever else wants to patrol the no fly zone.. and indiscriminate killings of civilians stops.. there are occassions when getting involved seem justified.
Syria next?
Bahrain?
Yemen?
Ivory Coast?
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:48 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Did you not read the part about there being broader political, economic, cost, and risk considerations when these issues arise? It's not pretty, but it's reality.

This thread is frustrating because you seem to have locked in an idea. We prove your idea to be wrong, and then you come back with the same idea, completely ignoring what we wrote.

It's very disrespectful.
Perhaps it is because your fall back excuse for attacking another nation is the treatment of some of the civilians there....but you do not apply the same standards to other nations.

Hypocrisy in a nutshell.

And typical of warmongers.
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