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Old 03-18-2011, 05:35 PM
 
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but van hollen, in a statement to the media, said supreme court decisions say judges cannot prevent the secretary of state from publishing bills and also say injunctions can't be given over claims that legislative procedures were violated, "even one as important as the open meetings law."
So, on top of the toddler temper tantrums we've already seen the past several weeks, WI has a kangaroo court, too?
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:43 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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During SPECIAL session, they can vote WITHOUT any notice. That is how OUR LAW in Wisconsin is written.
Not true. That can only be done in case of an actual emergency. This was clearly not an actual emergency. We in Wisconsin have always been very proud of our Open Meetings law and it has been stringently enforced everywhere in the state...from the smallest township meeting to the state representatives meetings.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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Not true. That can only be done in case of an actual emergency. This was clearly not an actual emergency. We in Wisconsin have always been very proud of our Open Meetings law
So proud that your senators flee the state in total fear of actually having to legislate?
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Let's stop with the sophistic nonsense, the bill was on the docket for a month while the democraps went into hiding.

If this bill is somehow stopped, and the will of the majority of WI taxpayers is thwarted by some BS manuevering of the public employee unions and their far left democratic allies in the WI legislature - there is going to be a war like the far left psychotics cannot begin to believe.

If I was a public union employee, at this point I would be thankful I have a job to come back to, there is an anger simmering in WI by the silent majority of WI taxpayers who have HAD IT with this garbage. The public employee unions need to really stop the nonsense of trying to force their theft/leeching on the rest of the tax base and supporting their lifestyle of fat pensions for early retirements with free lifetime healthcare...
The original bill was on the docket for a month. However, once the collective bargaining language was taken out and crafted on its own, that becomes a new bill by itself and must follow rules of the open meetings law. That did not happen, that was broken.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Let's stop with the sophistic nonsense, the bill was on the docket for a month while the democraps went into hiding.

If this bill is somehow stopped, and the will of the majority of WI taxpayers is thwarted by some BS manuevering of the public employee unions and their far left democratic allies in the WI legislature - there is going to be a war like the far left psychotics cannot begin to believe.

If I was a public union employee, at this point I would be thankful I have a job to come back to, there is an anger simmering in WI by the silent majority of WI taxpayers who have HAD IT with this garbage. The public employee unions need to really stop the nonsense of trying to force their theft/leeching on the rest of the tax base and supporting their lifestyle of fat pensions for early retirements with free lifetime healthcare...
You mean the Fab14, who the people of Wisc look upon as heroes? Those Dems that took the necessary steps to slow this ramrodding down? That group of Heroes, that most in the Country look upon as Heroes also?
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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It was stripped from the budget bill so that they could vote on it without the democrats present. Therefore, the original bill no longer contains the non-budget issue of collective bargaining.
Nope, it is non fiscal, it doesn't appropriate money. You can cut spending all day long without a quorum. You just can't spent anything.
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:59 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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The Call. The initial step in the special session process is the issuance of a proclamation by the governor setting forth the day and hour for convening the session and describing the purposes for which the session is to be held (see appendix for example). In recent years, the proclamation has taken the form of an executive order. In an opinion to Governor Emanuel
L. Philipp in 1918, Attorney General Spencer Haven indicated that the executive’s options in
calling a special session were quite broad:
It will be noted that this provision of the constitution leaves the matter wholly within your hands. You are hampered by no machinery, and no limitations. The time of issuing the proclamation, the time when the session shall convene, the subjects to be considered thereat, the length of notice to be given to the members, the method of notifying them, all are left entirely to your discretion. (7 OAG 49)
Attorney General Stewart G. Honeck’s opinion in 1948 (37 OAG 374) stated that the call may be issued in person or by mail, telephone or telegraph. He also added that failure to contact individual members who are out of the state or unavailable does not invalidate the special session.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:14 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Not two hours as required by law. Want to talk facts or just your opinion?
Justice Department attorneys argued that notice on a bulletin board posted about two hours before the committee meeting was to start last Wednesday was sufficient under rules of the Senate.
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:56 PM
 
Location: FL
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The original bill was on the docket for a month. However, once the collective bargaining language was taken out and crafted on its own, that becomes a new bill by itself and must follow rules of the open meetings law. That did not happen, that was broken.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:55 PM
 
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You mean the Fab14, who the people of Wisc look upon as heroes? Those Dems that took the necessary steps to slow this ramrodding down? That group of Heroes, that most in the Country look upon as Heroes also?
You have an odd definition of hero. Usually heros are the ones walking toward difficulty, not tucking tail, running and hiding in shame.

Most of the country does not look at those who flee from their duties of elected office as heros. Get a grip and face reality. Those 14 are bought and paid for cowards who only represent the unions who paid for their seats instead of the entirety of the people of Wisconsin whom they are supposed to represent per their oath of office.
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