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Old 03-20-2011, 06:08 AM
 
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But the bible does mention acts of humans that are wrong and the penalty. The bible is pretty clear as to it being a sin.Not approving of a human action does not mean you hate them as gay seem to thing you must in their view of others opinions.Being gay is not aginst the law. But marriage of two of the same sex is in most places.Great differnce there.
So when did sacred male temple prostitutes (qadesh) worshipping Canaanite fertility gods become "all 21st century gays and lesbians"?

When did heterosexual men threatening to rape male strangers to intimidate them (as was common at that time) become "all 21st century gays and lesbians"?

When did new converts in first century Rome reverting back to their original fertility cults (which incuded the use of ritualistic sex orgies in the pagan temples) -become "all 21st century gays and lesbians"?
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Old 03-20-2011, 06:10 AM
 
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There should not be 1100 federal benefits for anyone, in the first place.

That is not the role of our Federal Government, until the Progressive movement called public assistance, Welfare, so it could be justified in the Constitution, where it says welfare. It is anything but for the better welfare of this nation. It is a Robinhood plan, which is sugarcoated thievery.
So true.
This isn't about love, partnership, etc., but greed.
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:56 AM
 
Location: PA
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Don't get your teats in a twist......calm down.....otherwise noone will take your posts seriously!!!!!(like me)..

I hate to burst your bubble but families often contest gay legal contracts and more often than not the families win.....but by all means try again.

Then why even have contracts and a legal system. If the law isn't even followed and contracts between 2 people are ignored why are you even passing laws to deny and or protect anything. This is argument that families can contest any legal rights of individuals over their own personal relationships makes no legal sense. Once we get rid of the right to marry nonsense from a government and or legal definition sanity can return to INDIVIDUAL rights over this group thinking relationship status. Social status is in no way a right, individual choices are and the choices to be with someone for the rest of your life or not.
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Old 03-20-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Respect is never earned by constantly throwing sexual preference or sexual acts (San Fran Gay Pride Parades) in the face of others, by calling the defense of heterosexual marriage "bigoted", or assuming that those who do not agree with the normalization homosexuality in elementary school classrooms feel "threatened".

Homosexuality is not the "norm" for most of the world's population. Homosexuals in the USA do live in peace the same as everyone else. They may marry a person of the opposite gender, the same as everyone else. There is no discrimination. What you want is preferencial treatment and that is not in and of itself worthy of "respect".
Typical response when a poster has nothing of substance to write...
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Old 03-20-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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But the bible does mention acts of humans that are wrong and the penalty. The bible is pretty clear as to it being a sin.
There are 5 verses out of 37,000+ that ever talk about same-sex behavior. Not a single one of them does not include rape and/or pagan worship rituals. Jesus also never said a word on the issue.

The Bible was not written in English. The English version is not very clear.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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There should not be 1100 federal benefits for anyone, in the first place.

That is not the role of our Federal Government, until the Progressive movement called public assistance, Welfare, so it could be justified in the Constitution, where it says welfare. It is anything but for the better welfare of this nation. It is a Robinhood plan, which is sugarcoated thievery.
Well NEWSFLASH.......there are 1,100 benefits that one segment of the population does not have access to; yet our taxes are the same as everyone elses.

The rest of your post is OFF TOPIC and nonsensical!
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Old 03-21-2011, 03:25 AM
 
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So true.
This isn't about love, partnership, etc., but greed.

How is having the right to visit your partner in hospital and make medical decisions for them.... about "greed"? Many of the "benefits" are not financial at all, but legal.

Perhaps you need to actually read what those benefits, protections and responsibilities are before insulting all gay and lesbian couples.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:39 AM
 
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So true.
This isn't about love, partnership, etc., but greed.
No, it's about equal treatment under the law - one of our paramount, fundamental American values.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:59 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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No, it's about equal treatment under the law - one of our paramount, fundamental American values.
Unfortunately he is like many that believe we made a choice to be homosexual and thus do not deserve the same rights. Many of those that call what we want special rights, forget that the defense of straight marriage act calls their heterosexual marriages special and in need of protection. Their marriages need to be protected from their own abuse of it through the repeated divorces and infidelity of their supposedly sacred marriages. They should be up in arms about the over 50% divorce rate of straight marriages, but they want to have their cake and eat it too. We are not even allowed the cake, so to speak. They speak of gays not practicing fidelity in their relationships, yet the statistics show that 70% of straight divorces are due to infidelity of the male spouse and that 70% of the divorces are requested by the female spouse.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:01 AM
 
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How is having the right to visit your partner in hospital and make medical decisions for them.... about "greed"? Many of the "benefits" are not financial at all, but legal.

Perhaps you need to actually read what those benefits, protections and responsibilities are before insulting all gay and lesbian couples.
Talk to a lawyer and get a contract drawn up granting those protections. Heck, if you want to have a cutesy little ceremony while you do it, that's fine w/me.

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Civil unions for all adults of consenting age.
Can't be more fair than that.
For as long as this country has been in existence marriage has been 1 man, 1 woman. Why should we be forced to change that now because 200 + years later a small minority of people decide they don't like that and want a new version?
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