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Old 04-07-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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My PA birth certificate, issued in 1965 for a birth in 1949, is a short form. I just googled ordering a PA birth certificate, and look what I found:

Birth Certificates

"This service is not available for the following requests:

Birth occurred in another country and registered in Pennsylvania."

Only in Hawaii, eh?

Note: There was no option to select long or short form.




I'm pretty sure the birth announcements have been authenticated. When I worked in labor and delivery in the early 70s, the newspapers would call the L&D desk, and we would read the list of births off to them. I know that is not how it's done these days.
Yup, my certified PA birth certificate issued in 1991 for my 1963 birth is a short form. I will need to request another for my passport application, and I am sure it will be a similar computer-printed short form. Hopefully laser this time, instead of dot matrix.

 
Old 04-07-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure the birth announcements have been authenticated. When I worked in labor and delivery in the early 70s, the newspapers would call the L&D desk, and we would read the list of births off to them. I know that is not how it's done these days.
You didn't get what I said. ANYTHING can be fabricated once it is on a computer.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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Investigators need to be sent to Indonesia and Kenya also.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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If I were as rich as Trump, I'd probably have just as much fun winding up the kooks.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 02:02 PM
 
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You didn't get what I said. ANYTHING can be fabricated once it is on a computer.
So they hacked into the records of the Hawaii State Department to set this whole thin up??
 
Old 04-07-2011, 02:03 PM
 
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phil berg, who is often credited with being the first birther, was a supporter of hillary but had nothing to do with her campaign.
Lawyers acting on Hillary's behalf started the entire thing. Phil Berg was one of them and the most prominent. There were others that actually brought the whole thing up which were lawyers for Hillary during her campaign. Berg just filed the suit.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 02:03 PM
 
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I am really NOT a birther.

There is far too much evidence that obama was born in America.

It's just a shame that he wasn't vetted as a candidate.

I like the idea that Trump is breaking his balls though!

He very well may find something else, as was stated a few posts back.

Trump better be prepared for a big time tax audit!
 
Old 04-07-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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So they hacked into the records of the Hawaii State Department to set this whole thin up??
What? When that stuff was posted on line, it wasn't a direct link into the DOH's records database. The pics were on a web server. How did they get there? SOMEONE PUT THEM THERE! Who put them there? Nobody knows. Were they altered before they went online? Nobody knows that either.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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You're funny. Nobody actually SAW the PHYSICAL documents. NOBODY but people that CLAIM they did. Once a microfiche documents are scanned into a computer, they can be altered.
When you're going to use a smiley to show that you think somebody made a dumb point, it's best to be sure that somebody actually made a dumb point.

The physical microfiche slides are available in many libraries throughout the country. If you're saying that they've been digitally altered, then go to a library that has the microfiche and check for yourself. You could become famous as the person who brought the entire conspiracy down, instead of somebody just throwing out meaningless speculation on an internet forum.

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Of course I'm stating what if's because they are all possibilities. There are NO hard facts at all about any of this stuff. All we have seen are electronic (digital) copies of documents that very well could have been made up or altered. People can and DO get paid off to do underhanded things regardless of what letter is by their name. Until someone actually pulls out the microfiche and the BC and it is PHYSICALLY observed and known to be true nothing will ever be proven.
So how do we prove that no Republican officials in Hawaii were paid off? That's not something that can be disproved, it's only something that can be proven.

Obama's birth certificate was available at his campaign headquarters for months. That's how Factcheck were able to go in and take pictures, all they had to do was ask. The microfiche slides are still physically available.
 
Old 04-07-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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Lawyers acting on Hillary's behalf started the entire thing. Phil Berg was one of them and the most prominent. There were others that actually brought the whole thing up which were lawyers for Hillary during her campaign. Berg just filed the suit.
Linky please.
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