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Are we to understand that you suspect the Hawaiian office of vital statistics to have changed the birthplace information on the COLB? Because that is the only pertinent piece of data.
Isn't that why Donald Trump is pushing for an investigation?
Actual long-form birth certificate (NOT an easily-forged electronic copy of a short-form document that is not even officially accepted in Hawaii)
Passport files
University of Chicago Law School scholarly articles
Harvard Law Review articles
Harvard Law School records
Columbia University records
Columbia University senior thesis, “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament”
Occidental College records, including financial aid that he may have received
Punahou School records, where Mr. Obama attended from the fifth grade until he finished high school
Noelani Elementary School records, where Barack Obama attended kindergarten (according to the Hawaii Department of Education, students must submit a birth certificate to register — but parents may bring a passport or student visa if the child is from a foreign country)[/b]
Complete files and schedules of his years as an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004
Obama’s client list from during his time in private practice with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Gallard
Illinois State Bar Association records
Baptism records
Obama/Dunham marriage license
Obama/Dunham divorce documents
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license
Soetero/Dunham Adoption records
The non-issuance of the Occidental College records is especially pertinent. The United States Justice Foundation (USJF) served officials at Occidental College with a subpoena to produce records concerning Barack Obama’s attendance there during the 1980’s, because those records could document whether he was attending as a foreign national. Obama attended Occidental on a Fulbright scholarship — financial aid that is reserved for foreign students
It's time to come clean and release the records concerning the Fulbright Scholarship to begin with here
First of all, this is a cut and paste from an old email that has been going around for years. I have responded to it in the past.
What do you expect to learn from Obama's passport files? Oh, that's right, his birthplace. University of Chicago articles-what is the expectation here? Please elucidate. Harvard Law Review articles-if he wrote any, they should be availabel to anyone who subscribes to the Harvard Law Review. Why didn't the author of this stupid email just go to a library and look for them instead of expecting Obama to "release" them? Harvard Law School records-protected by privacy acts. No other president has ever released such records. Bush and Kerry's undergraduate records were leaked. Columbia University records: ditto
Occidental College records-ditto, plus, if Obama were really comitting a felony, do you not think this would have been investigated by now? I mean, this birther crap has gone on for years. High school, elemenatry and kindergarten records-kindergarten for God's sake! Get a grip! Have any of you birthers ever registered a child for kindergarten? In the first place, I'd be willing to bet a BC wasn't even required in 1966; furthermore when we registered our kids, they just looked at the bc to see if the kid was the correct age. No one made copies, etc. "Complete files from Illinois senate years"-just what is the information of interest. This stuff is a matter of public record, anyway. Client list from private practice- uh, excuse me? This is confidential information. It is nobody's business. Ill. State Bar Assn Records-again, what is the information of interest? Baptism records-are you for real? What other pres. or candidate has released baptism records?
Parents' marriage licenses/divorce decrees/remarriage/re-divorce: Actually, this is factually untrue, as I have seen his mom's divorce decrees from Lolo Soetoro. And none of this is anyone else's business. Who has demanded to see any other presidential candidate's parents records? Soetoro/Dunham adoption records-these do not exist b/c Lolo Soetoro never adopted Obama.
the birther list of demands for eligibility! let's take a look:
Actual long-form birth certificate (NOT an easily-forged electronic copy of a short-form document that is not even officially accepted in Hawaii) under the "full faith and credit" clause of the constitution the hawaiian COLB is sufficient. to demand a "long-form" would be unconstitutional. also the COLB is accepted proof of birth for the US state department, hawaii and every other state.
Passport files not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.
University of Chicago Law School scholarly articles not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.
Harvard Law Review articles not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.
Harvard Law School records not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.
Columbia University records not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.
Columbia University senior thesis, “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any. also unlikely to still exist according to obama's proffesor snopes.com: Barack Obama's Columbia University Thesis
Occidental College records, including financial aid that he may have received not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.
Punahou School records, where Mr. Obama attended from the fifth grade until he finished high school not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.
Noelani Elementary School records, where Barack Obama attended kindergarten (according to the Hawaii Department of Education, students must submit a birth certificate to register — but parents may bring a passport or student visa if the child is from a foreign country) not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.also unlikely to still exist since elementary school records are usually kept for only 7 years.
Complete files and schedules of his years as an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004 exactly what public document hasn't been released?
Obama’s client list from during his time in private practice with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Gallard violation of client/attorney privilege
Illinois State Bar Association records not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.
Baptism records unconstitional. creates a "religeous test" for an elected official to hold office.
Obama/Dunham marriage license unsure if they ever filed for one
Obama/Dunham divorce documents not a requirement, not a public document and not shown by the vast majority of presidents/presidential candidates, if any.
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license is a public record
Soetero/Dunham Adoption record no evidence an adoption ever took place
First of all, this is a cut and paste from an old email that has been going around for years. I have responded to it in the past.
What do you expect to learn from Obama's passport files? Oh, that's right, his birthplace. University of Chicago articles-what is the expectation here? Please elucidate. Harvard Law Review articles-if he wrote any, they should be availabel to anyone who subscribes to the Harvard Law Review. Why didn't the author of this stupid email just go to a library and look for them instead of expecting Obama to "release" them? Harvard Law School records-protected by privacy acts. No other president has ever released such records. Bush and Kerry's undergraduate records were leaked. Columbia University records: ditto
Occidental College records-ditto, plus, if Obama were really comitting a felony, do you not think this would have been investigated by now? I mean, this birther crap has gone on for years. High school, elemenatry and kindergarten records-kindergarten for God's sake! Get a grip! Have any of you birthers ever registered a child for kindergarten? In the first place, I'd be willing to bet a BC wasn't even required in 1966; furthermore when we registered our kids, they just looked at the bc to see if the kid was the correct age. No one made copies, etc. "Complete files from Illinois senate years"-just what is the information of interest. This stuff is a matter of public record, anyway. Client list from private practice- uh, excuse me? This is confidential information. It is nobody's business. Ill. State Bar Assn Records-again, what is the information of interest? Baptism records-are you for real? What other pres. or candidate has released baptism records?
Parents' marriage licenses/divorce decrees/remarriage/re-divorce: Actually, this is factually untrue, as I have seen his mom's divorce decrees from Lolo Soetoro. And none of this is anyone else's business. Who has demanded to see any other presidential candidate's parents records? Soetoro/Dunham adoption records-these do not exist b/c Lolo Soetoro never adopted Obama.
You know, ive said I think he was born here but at times its hard not to wonder. While I think everyone should have privacy, some records should be partially released if youre going to be the most powerful man in the country.
Call me crazy or whatever, but Im assuming he wasnt wealthy growing up right? How exactly did he pay for those schools? Honest question. I am not aware if they had the sort of funding for college for some back then as they do now.
You know, ive said I think he was born here but at times its hard not to wonder. While I think everyone should have privacy, some records should be partially released if youre going to be the most powerful man in the country.
Call me crazy or whatever, but Im assuming he wasnt wealthy growing up right? How exactly did he pay for those schools? Honest question. I am not aware if they had the sort of funding for college for some back then as they do now.
So then pass a law requiring some of these records be released. No other president/candidate has released 10% of what is requested in that cut and paste. I think his grandparents had a middle class income. DH and I paid for private college for our daughters on our middle class incomes. It depends on one's priorities. Obama did take out student loans for law school.
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Originally Posted by pommysmommy
The thing that makes me wonder is the amount of money Obama spent not to produce his birth certificate.
The think that makes me wonder is that people still believe this drek.
You are in charge of your self esteem. My post, like every post on this forum, is opinion.
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