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in this, legal has nothing to do! if the hospital produces that birthcertificate even if it is not legal under the law I dont care. that would tell me, he was born there because they have a document, a history of his birth. its common sense I dont see how you dont get it. a document of his birth from a hospital I dont care if the government says its legal or not
That's hilarious!
All this time, people have been clamoring for this so-called "vault" certificate, and now the goalposts have changed and you want to see his "souvenir" cert? You don't even know if the hospital gave those out when Obama was born. Neither the hospital where my brother or I was born used souvenir BCs. There is no lenght to which you birthers will not go to "prove" Obama is not eligible for the presidency.
All this time, people have been clamoring for this so-called "vault" certificate, and now the goalposts have changed and you want to see his "souvenir" cert? You don't even know if the hospital gave those out when Obama was born. Neither the hospital where my brother or I was born used souvenir BCs. There is no lenght to which you birthers will not go to "prove" Obama is not eligible for the presidency.
Well then please post the hospital bill for your delivery, else-wise folks might think you are just a creation of the State.
Even if there was a video of President Obama's birth in Hawaii with the 12 Justices of the Supreme Court, the Queen of England, the Pope and Jesus Christ all standing around there as witnesses, the "Birthers" would still be hawing about this nonissue issue.
in this, legal has nothing to do! if the hospital produces that birthcertificate even if it is not legal under the law I dont care. that would tell me, he was born there because they have a document, a history of his birth. its common sense I dont see how you dont get it.
because it's not common sense or a very good understanding of how births are recorded. hospitals do not bear the burden of maintaining vital records. that responsibility lies with the state department of health. laws are different from state to state but the general rule of thumb is that hospitals are only required to maintain OB/GYN records for a few years after the child reaches 18. whether the hospital maintains these records after that is completely up to the hospital. obviously this would not be a reliable source for identifying someone 35+.
as far as the souvenir copy goes........ not all hospitals supply them ( neither me or my daughter have one ) or are they restricted by any security measures or state standards. they hold the same legal/ID weight as a driver's license from a go-cart track.
All this time, people have been clamoring for this so-called "vault" certificate, and now the goalposts have changed and you want to see his "souvenir" cert? You don't even know if the hospital gave those out when Obama was born. Neither the hospital where my brother or I was born used souvenir BCs. There is no lenght to which you birthers will not go to "prove" Obama is not eligible for the presidency.
I have one and its from mexico. a hospital from mexico it would be unbelievable thaaaaaaaat an American hospital would not have such a procedure.I have all of my kids birthcetificates, that the hospital gave to us each time one of our kids was born,they even came with thier very own ss#!! and it would be very easy to find out if they pass out those souvenirs, back then. it is very easy to lead the blind but those of us that can see, not so easy!!
i just posted how the US maintains birth records. if you have any contradictory evidence to that please post it.
as for the SS#...... they were not issued at the time of birth in the 60's. i didn't get mine till i got a newspaper route at 10 and some of my classmates didn't get one till applying to college at 17.
today they are released within a few days of birth. if you have not come up with a name for the child in that time the SSA will issue the number under the name "baby girl/boy (mother's maiden name)".
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