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Old 04-10-2011, 05:57 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Originally Posted by Cyanna View Post
No, a hospital would not provide you with a Birth Certificate, but they would provide you with a certification of live birth.

When we applied for my husband's immigration papers in London while at the interview I had to provide my long form birth certificate. They have a copy of it on record. They needed me to prove that I was really a USA citizen who was married to this British applicant. I also had to provide proof of divorce from my first husband. My son, who recently attended an interview in London with his fiance, also had to show his long form birth certificate.

What it comes down to is that peope who voted for Obama are terrified that they'll be made to look like fools, while those who didn't vote for him are concerned that a fraud sits in the White House.
In 2008, the Obama campaign released his birth certificate, certified by the Hawaii Department of Health, and posted a scanned image of it online. The posted certificate states that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961.[1] The certificate also states, "This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding". Frequent arguments of those questioning Obama's eligibility are that he has not released a photocopy of his "original" or "long form" birth certificate, but rather a redacted "short form" version. It has also been claimed that the use of the term "certification of live birth" on the document means it is not equivalent to one's "birth certificate". These arguments have been debunked numerous times by media investigations,[13] every judicial forum that has addressed the matter, and Hawaiian government officials—a consensus of whom have concluded that the certificate released by the Obama campaign is indeed his official birth certificate.[14] Asked about this, Hawaiian Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo stated that Hawaii "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate".[15] Moreover, the director of her Department has confirmed that the state "has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures".[16][17]

 
Old 04-10-2011, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Yes, I am.

But lets wait and see what other investigators find in their searches.

Honestly, some Transparency on Obama's part would go a long way to putting this to bed. Provide the long form, which IS still available, and provide his college/university records as people have been requesting. Its very simple, really.
The long form is NOT still available Hawaii does NOT offer it period, at least not a CERTIFIED one. Obama has released a STATE CERTIFIED Birth Certificate to the Public, that goes above and beyond what anyone other Presidents have released. if ACTUAL STATE CERTIFIED LEGAL DOCUMENTS aren't enough for birther bats**** nothing will be

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Old 04-10-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Wow, talk about deflection! Who starts all these "birther" threads? Who started this one?
Me deflect...did you answer any question I asked? And you say I deflect. LOLOLOLOL
 
Old 04-10-2011, 06:08 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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If people do NOT believe the State of Hawaii about Obama's Birth Certificate then everyone might as well throw their Birth Certificates away...... Obviously Trump doesn't believe in official documents.... when it suits him.
 
Old 04-10-2011, 06:16 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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I'd like Hawaii to tell us the name (signature on the Long-Form birth certificate) of the delivering doctor. I'd like Hawaii to tell us exactly which Hawaii hospital Obama was born in.

I bet the delivering doctor has never delivered a baby in a Hawaiian hospital. And I bet Obama was not born in a Hawaiian hospital.
 
Old 04-10-2011, 06:19 PM
 
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I'd like Hawaii to tell us the name (signature on the Long-Form birth certificate) of the delivering doctor. I'd like Hawaii to tell us exactly which Hawaii hospital Obama was born in.
why?
 
Old 04-10-2011, 06:22 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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why?
Because I bet the delivering doctor has never delivered a baby in a Hawaiian hospital. And I bet Obama was not born in a Hawaiian hospital.

Hell, no Hawaii hospital has any record of Obama ever being born. Let's see if they have a record of the delivering doctor...
 
Old 04-10-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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And I bet Obama was not born in a Hawaiian hospital.
former governor linda lingle has stated it was kapi'olani.
 
Old 04-10-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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Because I bet the delivering doctor has never delivered a baby in a Hawaiian hospital. And I bet Obama was not born in a Hawaiian hospital.

Hell, no Hawaii hospital has any record of Obama ever being born. Let's see if they have a record of the delivering doctor...


Seek help
 
Old 04-10-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by Cyanna View Post
No, a hospital would not provide you with a Birth Certificate, but they would provide you with a certification of live birth.

When we applied for my husband's immigration papers in London while at the interview I had to provide my long form birth certificate. They have a copy of it on record. They needed me to prove that I was really a USA citizen who was married to this British applicant. I also had to provide proof of divorce from my first husband. My son, who recently attended an interview in London with his fiance, also had to show his long form birth certificate.

What it comes down to is that peope who voted for Obama are terrified that they'll be made to look like fools, while those who didn't vote for him are concerned that a fraud sits in the White House.
So here's where MY 40 years of nursing comes in. Hospitals DO NOT issue birth certificates, certifications of live births, or anything of the like. That is a DOH job.

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Originally Posted by highcotton View Post
I'd like Hawaii to tell us the name (signature on the Long-Form birth certificate) of the delivering doctor. I'd like Hawaii to tell us exactly which Hawaii hospital Obama was born in.

I bet the delivering doctor has never delivered a baby in a Hawaiian hospital. And I bet Obama was not born in a Hawaiian hospital.
Why do you want to know this information, when you have been so incurious about the same info regarding all other presidents. Why do you think Obama's mother would not have delivered in a hospital?

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Originally Posted by tillman7 View Post
I don't know if y'all didn't know this, but if you have a parent that is an American citizen, then you are. If you have parent's, one from american and one another country, you have dual citizenship up until a certain age (14 I believe). Then you have to renouce one. But if you are born on American soil...you are American in most cases excluding prisoners of war, etc.
Yes, this is common knowledge.
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