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Old 04-11-2011, 10:41 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Obama is an alien whether he was born here or on foreign shores. No birth certificate is needed to prove he is unfamiliar with life in America and estranged from its citizens.

No further proof is needed to discredit him.

 
Old 04-11-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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A STATE CERTIFIED AND VERIFIED LEGAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE was released to the public almost three years ago. If you do not believe in LEGAL DOCUMENTS and THE ACTUAL LAW, well then its your loss
You need to learn some critical thinking skills and stop being so gullible. Suppose McCain had manufactured a short form BC and put it on the internet, then blocked all eyes from seeing the original. Then factcheck puts one oneline to support him, but theirs is different than his. Wouldn't that make you a bit skeptical? On top of that, he has erased his school records, passport, medical, adoption, divorce decrees.........there is more we don't know than do. There has been a massive coverup, and few seem to give a damn. Wake up
How many social security numbers do you have? He has numerous ones, while the one he currently uses, is from Conneticut - he never lived there. It stinks
 
Old 04-11-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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You need to learn some critical thinking skills and stop being so gullible. Suppose McCain had manufactured a short form BC and put it on the internet, then blocked all eyes from seeing the original. Then factcheck puts one oneline to support him, but theirs is different than his. Wouldn't that make you a bit skeptical? On top of that, he has erased his school records, passport, medical, adoption, divorce decrees.........there is more we don't know than do. There has been a massive coverup, and few seem to give a damn. Wake up
... says the person who apparently believes in debunked conspiracy theories.
 
Old 04-11-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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You need to learn some critical thinking skills and stop being so gullible. Suppose McCain had manufactured a short form BC and put it on the internet, then blocked all eyes from seeing the original. Then factcheck puts one oneline to support him, but theirs is different than his. Wouldn't that make you a bit skeptical? On top of that, he has erased his school records, passport, medical, adoption, divorce decrees.........there is more we don't know than do. There has been a massive coverup, and few seem to give a damn. Wake up
Gullible, much?

Obama didn't manufacture a BC and put it on the web. He ordered and paid for a copy of his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. He hasn't blocked anyone from seeing the original. Hawaii, like all states, keeps birth certificates confidential. Hawaii, however, has publicly verified President Obama's birth certificate. So, your issue is not with the President, but with the state of Hawaii. As long as Hawaii asserts that President Obama was born in Hawaii, then no birther has any foundation for a legal challenge. The President hasn't erased any records, those records are irrelevant. As long as Hawaii asserts that President Obama was born in Hawaii, and there is no proof otherwise, then the matter is resolved. States can pass whatever laws they want, but unless they want to take Hawaii to court, and they have no cause to do so, it won't make any difference. Wake up!!!!!
 
Old 04-11-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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snopes is does not have impeccable credibility (may not be totally unbiased).
here is the link to the seattle times printing of the AP feed.


Nation & World | Ryan ends Senate bid | Seattle Times Newspaper
 
Old 04-11-2011, 11:01 AM
 
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Obama is an alien whether he was born here or on foreign shores. No birth certificate is needed to prove he is unfamiliar with life in America and estranged from its citizens.

No further proof is needed to discredit him.
great. those will be considerations voters can take to the polls next year but have no affect on eligibility.
 
Old 04-11-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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Then factcheck puts one oneline to support him, but theirs is different than his.
how exactly was it different?
 
Old 04-11-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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On top of that, he has erased his school records, passport, medical, adoption, divorce decrees.........
none of those records have been "erased" they just aren't public record ( same as yours and mine ). do you understand the difference?
 
Old 04-11-2011, 11:14 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Obama is an alien whether he was born here or on foreign shores. No birth certificate is needed to prove he is unfamiliar with life in America and estranged from its citizens.

No further proof is needed to discredit him.
In using such assinine logic, the last 4 presidents, the senate and congress not to mention a portion of the unsupereme court could fit into that category.

So whats YOUR beef? Personally I think that he is more intuned with real America, since he had to face discrimination b/c of the color of his skin unlike the presidents before him. His estrangement comes from people like you who do'nt have a clue on how government works
 
Old 04-11-2011, 11:16 AM
 
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In which presidential candidates ALWAYS are required to release them, EXCEPT for obama. School records, health records, college transcripts, college applications, etc.
I guess that isn't intended to be a factual statement.
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