Donald Trump - The Latest Birther.........And all other Birther Topics (radio, Harry Reid)
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OK, I shouldn't get into this b/c Obama was born in Hawaii. However, the old law is not written the way many birthers think it is. (They just believe what they read on birther sites and don't do much thinking for themselves.) The law read that if a child is born abroad to a parent that is a US citizen and one who is not, the US citizen (doesn't specify WHICH parent) had to have lived in the US for 5 years past the age of 14. If the US citizen parent, say a father, was 50 years old when the child was born, he still had to have lived in the US for 5 years after the age of 14. Obama's mother hadn't lived for 5 years after the age of 14, anywhere. So it is not that she was too young. It would take a legal interpretation to know if that law would have applied to her.
i think if you dug down on the 5 year requirement you'd find it was in reference to naturalized citizens not natural born citizens, which Obama's mom was. You cannot expatriate an American citizen based on where they live or lived.
i think if you dug down on the 5 year requirement you'd find it was in reference to naturalized citizens not natural born citizens, which Obama's mom was. You cannot expatriate an American citizen based on where they live or lived.
See the chart for the appropriate dates. It is not an issue of expatriating the US citizen, it is an issue of giving citizenship to the child born abroad.
However, Obama was born in Hawaii, so none of this stuff applies.
i agree obama was born in hawaii, but I would NOT put much stock in waht a GREEN CARD lawfirm had to say on the subject. They deal with naturalized citizen, Obama's mom was a natural born citizen, there is the distinction.
See the chart for the appropriate dates. It is not an issue of expatriating the US citizen, it is an issue of giving citizenship to the child born abroad.
However, Obama was born in Hawaii, so none of this stuff applies.
See the chart for the appropriate dates. It is not an issue of expatriating the US citizen, it is an issue of giving citizenship to the child born abroad.
However, Obama was born in Hawaii, so none of this stuff applies.
It's been awhile since I've engaged in this argument, but I believe Stanley Ann lived in Indonesia for a time, and there was some question as to whether she had relinquished her citizenship to do so, and whether she had filed the papers to reinstate it. Just another interesting tidbit that may never go anywhere, because her passport and pertinent travel records have disappeared.
It's been awhile since I've engaged in this argument, but I believe Stanley Ann lived in Indonesia for a time, and there was some question as to whether she had relinquished her citizenship to do so, and whether she had filed the papers to reinstate it. Just another interesting tidbit that may never go anywhere, because her passport and pertinent travel records have disappeared.
Well, yes, it's been well documented that she lived in Indonesia when she was married to Lolo Soetoro. So?
of course, that would be after barry was born, correct? wouldn't affect his natural born status.
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Originally Posted by claudhopper
It's been awhile since I've engaged in this argument, but I believe Stanley Ann lived in Indonesia for a time, and there was some question as to whether she had relinquished her citizenship to do so, and whether she had filed the papers to reinstate it. Just another interesting tidbit that may never go anywhere, because her passport and pertinent travel records have disappeared.
see ockham's razor
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there was some question as to whether she had relinquished her citizenship to do so, and whether she had filed the papers to reinstate it. Just another interesting tidbit that may never go anywhere, because her passport and pertinent travel records have disappeared.
Maybe there is a question for the likes of WorldnetDaily, but renunciation of citizenship is no minor matter and wouldn't be in the least bit difficult to ascertain. As for "filing some papers" to reestablish citizenship, try again. The State Department takes great care in informing those who wish to renounce their U.S. citizenship because re-establishing it is extremely difficult, in point of fact as a non-citizen the process would be as difficult as a newly arrived immigrant from a foreign country.
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