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Old 04-27-2011, 05:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BigJon3475 View Post
Well we still do have the U.S. Constitution which is the original birther movement.
Except the US Constitution was thought up by rational people. The birther movement was not.

 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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One thing that is not in doubt is that Obama's father was a foreign citizen (Kenyan/British) at the time of Obama Jr.'s birth. That has always been THE KEY ISSUE on Obama's eligibility. He is not a 'natural born citizen' as defined by many Constitutional scholars and legal experts. The POTUS must be born to parents (plural) that are both U.S. citizens. Obama clearly does not meet that standard.

Now, let's see his college records. A million-to-one odds are that Obama claimed he was a citizen of another country.
 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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Except the US Constitution was thought up by rational people. The birther movement was not.
They are the ones that added:

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

Anyways, more importantly:

Trump Responds to Release of Obama Birth Certificate - Fox News Video - FoxNews.com

Each one of them is trying hard to portray themselves as the one who really cares. LOL, I know, I know.
 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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He released the actual state certified birth certificate that is official under the law three years ago. Simply nothing else was even needed. The state doesn't even release this, he needed to get an exception from the state to get the actual document.
Despite his bravado, this will ultimately sink any chance Trump had to be considered a nominee for the Republicans.

He is done.
 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:15 PM
 
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Are u serious? Obama had to go through the same channels any other president did to run for office. Trump was looking for a platform, unfortunatley it was the wrong one.
:e came up empty AND it did nothing to show how he will he'll help America! These Shananigans do nothing but distract as they cause unnecessary dissension. Like this country doesn't have enough problems?!



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Who caused the distraction? There were legitimate questions but it took Trump to prod Obama into it. 3 years!

What I believe happened is that Obama saw that the interest in the questions was growing larger and faster and it was to his advantage to address it.
 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:27 PM
 
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He is not a 'natural born citizen' as defined by many Constitutional scholars and legal experts.
name these scholars and legal experts please.
 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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except you are completely wrong.... one "natural born" parent is all that obama needed and that was if he was born on foreign soil....

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Originally Posted by highcotton View Post
One thing that is not in doubt is that Obama's father was a foreign citizen (Kenyan/British) at the time of Obama Jr.'s birth. That has always been THE KEY ISSUE on Obama's eligibility. He is not a 'natural born citizen' as defined by many Constitutional scholars and legal experts. The POTUS must be born to parents (plural) that are both U.S. citizens. Obama clearly does not meet that standard.

Now, let's see his college records. A million-to-one odds are that Obama claimed he was a citizen of another country.
 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:32 PM
 
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They are the ones that added:....
correct but to date not a single congressman (current or former), constitutional scholar, judge or law professor has agreed with the "2 citizen parent" definition of natural born citizen.
 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:32 PM
 
Location: vista
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Question Really?

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I think you view is in the minority. I think most sane people thought the whole issue was silly and wished it would go away. Most people saw a loony TV gameshow host goad the President, and they saw him take the bait. It was a very weak move. The polls will tell who is right.
Trump and you were the ones who took the bait. The president played you fools like a fiddle. Independents have been watching all this and will swing back to Obama.
 
Old 04-27-2011, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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that NBC talking head just called it the long form GIFT certificate, LOL the GIFT that keeps on giving.
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