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Originally Posted by pollyrobin
Obama needed a birth certificate to get a passport.
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and has been told (which show that you are not reading the replies told to you). He had a passport since he was a child. HE WAS on his mother's passport for years, and all he would need to do is just RENEW his passport after that.
You do not need a BC to get a passport once you already have one.
I just renewed my passport, and I did it by snail mail. Not required to send in MY BC.
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states in his book he had/saw a birth certificate in High School - needed it to get a S.S. card.
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And so what? that was 40+ years ago. He probably asked for it, took it down to the SSA office, got his SSN and returned it to his mother (who would normally have it)
I was only 16 when I learned that my parents didn't have my COLB since they lost it. I got a copy to get my job. I promptly gave it to my parents so they could hold on to it (of which they lost it again, so I asked for a new one in 1999 and then I lost it, and asked for a new one in 2006)
What 16 year old is concerned about a birth certificate? Isn't it the job of the parents to keep records safe?
You're making assumptions here that YOU would do. NOT what other people do.
YOU've been told by others in this very thread, that they have requested copies of these records because they themselves have lost theirs over the years, or never RECEIVED one in the first place.
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So, I would be curious to see a photocopy of his birth certificate stamped from an earlier period of time in his life.
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He can't provide something that he doesn't have. Why do you think that he has it?
How does something he saw when he was in high school prove that he has it 40 years later?
Like I stated, I was 16 and never saw my original copy of my COLB and most likely never will (unless I decide to go to the DOH in Hawaii, stand in a line for 2 hours to do so. .. sorry I have better use of my vacation time in Hawaii).
BTW you have no right to see any documents unless they are publicly published. The COLB is a private document.
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I know Obama was not hatched from an egg. Everyone born in the 1960's has a paper trail. I do, you do, my husband does.
And so did Obama before 2007.
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key word here:
DID
HE did see it. Doesn't mean that he has it TODAY. that he HAS IT NOW.
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And, I've been reading this:
[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
There is a difference between COLBs issued to those who were born in hospitals with full documentation and those who were given Hawaiian birth status through an affidavit process.
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Again, that was PASSED IN 1982...21 years after Obama was born. What part of this do you have a hard time understanding? That wouldn't apply to Obama because there was NO LAW in Hawaii about those born outside of the United States at the time of his birth. YOU couldn't get a COLB in Hawaii if you were born in a foreign country. YOU simply had to rely on the Birth Certificate issued by your home country as identification and use that.
In 1982 when the law was passed, YOU THEN could take your Birth Certificate from another coutnry and get it entered into the Hawaii database, to be issued one that is formated to Hawaii's COLB. But guess what? YOUR place of BIRTH will states the COUNTRY you were born in
We've asked this of birthers, but maybe you can provide the evidence:
Please show us a COLB of a known person who was born in another country, that shows his/her place of birth as being in Hawaii.
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