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Obama has not sealed his records, you need to stop lying about this.
How does a legal birth certificate mean nothing?? So you put more stock into birth certificates that have little actual legal value over the state certified legal birth certificate?? Interesting.....
No need to play dumb.
You know what people want to see.
By not releasing the long form, and hiding behind the "it's LEGAL" BS, proves he's hiding something.
TRUST ME, my old time long-form is just as legal as Obama's recently laser-printed off short form.
Exactly. Which is why I asked him to go and get one. He can see for himself that what you get is the computerized laser printed certificate much like Mr. Obama's. And mine.
When you go to the court of clerk and ask for an original copy of a BC from the 1800's, do they laser print you a short form too?
Executive Order 13489 is virtually the same as Executive Order 123283, which President George W. Bush issued early in his presidency and which it replaced. That executive order is in turn virtually identical to its predecessor Executive Order 12667 which was issued by President Reagan. All of these orders deal specifically with the National Archive and its role in preserving presidential papers and records. The orders refer only to records generated by the office of the President during his administration which have been kept by the National Archive since that institution was created in 1934.
Starting with Reagan it has been the practice of successive presidents to keep their operating records secret until a later date when they are made public as part of the comprehensive record of their presidency.
By not releasing the long form, and hiding behind the "it's LEGAL" BS, proves he's hiding something.
TRUST ME, my old time long-form is just as legal as Obama's recently laser-printed off short form.
Interesting that you don't know that....
How can he be hiding something when he released his LEGAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. All of the records in Hawaii are kept digitally on computer. I needed a new copy of my birth certificate since the original was lost, so I contacted the NY State Vital Records Department. Guess what, they issued a short form that was printed on a Computer. They do not issue the long form, and you know what, its get this LEGAL.
Exactly. Which is why I asked him to go and get one. He can see for himself that what you get is the computerized laser printed certificate much like Mr. Obama's. And mine.
Erm. I have my handwritten long form and the computerized short form.
When you go to the court of clerk and ask for an original copy of a BC from the 1800's, do they laser print you a short form too?
Point BEING that Obama has a long form.
He needs to SHOW IT.
Firstly, he doesn't need to show it. He has already provided a legal document proving his birthplace and date.
Secondly, regarding the BC from the 1800's:
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Can I order anyone's vital record?
Due to policy differences between vital record offices, there is not a "blanket answer" to the question of who can order a record, however most locations will only provide certificates to members of the person's immediate family.
Erm. I have my handwritten long form and the computerized short form.
Say your long form burned in a fire (heaven forbid), what would constitute proof of your birth? You can't just go down and get another copy of your long form.
Say your long form burned in a fire (heaven forbid), what would constitute proof of your birth? You can't just go down and get another copy of your long form.
Question is what's the big deal about the birth certificate?
Answer: Because its a requirement to become president of the United States.
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