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to date he has just repeated standard birther talking points. he hasn't offered any new information or insight into the debate nor has he said exactly what his investigators are looking into. he hasn't even offered up the name of an investigation firm hired to do the job.
There are way too many possibilities. Just to think, the Obama supporters seem to think it is utterly impossible to get fake credentials, although illegals do it everyday.
Fair enough, I would never accuse you of having an active sense of curiosity and willingness to work hard anyway.
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Like they remember that far back!!!! LMAO!
Well make up your mind! Are you going to accuse them of being victims or participants in a fraud yourself, or are you going to wait for somebody else to do all the work for you?
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Eight days after obama was born, the birth announcement popped up and as The Donald says, his grandparents probably placed it in the paper.
Sanrene for the fourth time, how exactly do you think the series of events that led to Obama's birth in Kenya went down? When did Obama's mother leave Hawaii? Why the deceit and fraud when it's easy to get a child of an American citizen naturalized?
YES! It's not hard! All that needs to be done is PUT YOUR INFORMATION on a BC. I have a friend who did this so he could drive again. He changed one letter in his last name on a REAL but FAKE(not his) BC. He got it from someone corrupt at the DOH where he was born. A little pay off and BAM, you have a perfectly legal BC to use as if you were that person. Next you go get your SSN card, then conjure up some more fake crap and go get a DL. It IS that easy. Hell, where I work, one of our state legislators got over 100 SSN cards for a group of illegal workers that came here to do a project! ANYTHING CAN BE DONE!
In your last posts in this thread you said that you thought that the birth announcements could have been forged.
Most newspapers, especially back then, would gladly add birth announcements...just by someone (e.g. grandparent) asking they do it. The announcement information did not have to come from the DOH. In addition, the information was never confirmed for accuracy or authenticity.
That said, here is what was found out about WHO it was that requested baby Obama's birth announcement be added to the newspaper(s) in 1961:
“The birth announcements were printed from unconfirmed information provided to the Newspapers by the Department of Health who received the information from Obama's grandparents, not a hospital," says Crosby in a phone call from Oahu.
“This information was publish without the DOH or newspaper editors confirming the actual location of the birth in any hospital or location in Hawaii. I found thousands of birth registration records of children born outside of Hawaii who have their announcements published in these two newspapers."
In 1961, the two newspapers shared the same address and facility for their publishing operations which means they received only one copy of the same vital records information from the Department of Health. Therefore, the format and content of information used in "vital event" public announcements, including births, deaths, divorces and marriage applications, were published identically by both papers, including any mistakes, omissions, order or context. No investigation was carried out by the papers' editors to determine if the information provided by the DOH was actually accurate or, in the case of birth announcements, if the address published and provided by the registrant had any association with the geographic location of the actual birth. More than 1200 birth announcements between 1960 and 1965 were shown to contain Hawaiian addresses for registrants of births outside of the state of Hawaii, including more than three hundred in which the child was born outside of the United States.
“The Health Department director has complete autonomy in determining whether a foreign applicant qualifies for an original birth record under Hawaii's administrative rules," added Crosby
"Essentially, this means that former Health Department director, Chiyome Fukino single-handedly determined the eligibility of Obama to be President of the U.S."
"Regardless," he continued, "They (newspaper editors) don’t even confirm 'native' birth status. The newspaper doesn’t care if the birth occurred in the local hospital. They don’t even print the address of the birth. They publish the address of the registrant, not the birth place. They merely published information provided to them directly and exclusively from the Department of Health in 1961, which means that any birth meeting the criteria of this law can be registered in Hawaii, and therefore is published in a newspaper announcement. Obama could have been born on Mars and it wouldn't matter to the DOH or the newspapers.”
“The birth location is mistakenly implied to be Hawaii by people because the address of the registrant is Hawaiian as it appears in this newspaper. I also found several birth records in Japan for birth's registered in Hawaii.”
A review of all the birth announcements in Hawaii in 1961 reveals other evidence suggesting a disconnect between the Department of Health and Hawaii’s hospitals.
First of all, as shown by Crosby, all the announcements show the parents as married and living at the same address.
“This is not merely a majority of the announcements, this is actually all of them. Every single one! Approximately 16,000 in all!” Crosby said.
He continued, “This is a significant indication that the newspapers actually do not investigate the information provided by the DOH (Department of Health). If they did, they would have seen that there are more than 1040 births recorded in Hawaii in 1961 in which the parents were not married and/or only the mother is recorded as the parent, yet the papers still publish Mr. and Mrs. ‘Whoever’ in the announcement because that is the information registered, not medically verified.”
If the DOH doesn’t include accurate information about the parents marital status for birth announcements, in all cases, what makes people conclude a native birth even though the DOH also omits accurate information about the location of the birth, as well? Crosby also discovered that the announcements are in a tale-tell order which exposes a shocking fact about Obama’s birth announcements.
according to the managing editor it was standard practice and is consistent with the sections header, "Health Bureau Statistics".
According to this guy, the managing editor isn't telling the whole story. Yeah it came from the DOH, but the DOH got the info from his grandparents!
“The birth announcements were printed from unconfirmed information provided to the Newspapers by the Department of Health who received the information from Obama's grandparents, not a hospital," says Crosby in a phone call from Oahu.
Most newspapers, especially back then, would gladly add birth announcements...just by someone (e.g. grandparent) asking they do it. The announcement information did not have to come from the DOH. In addition, the information was never confirmed for accuracy or authenticity.
That said, here is what was found out about WHO it was that requested baby Obama's birth announcement be added to the newspaper(s) in 1961:
“The birth announcements were printed from unconfirmed information provided to the Newspapers by the Department of Health who received the information from Obama's grandparents, not a hospital," says Crosby in a phone call from Oahu.
“This information was publish without the DOH or newspaper editors confirming the actual location of the birth in any hospital or location in Hawaii. I found thousands of birth registration records of children born outside of Hawaii who have their announcements published in these two newspapers."
In 1961, the two newspapers shared the same address and facility for their publishing operations which means they received only one copy of the same vital records information from the Department of Health. Therefore, the format and content of information used in "vital event" public announcements, including births, deaths, divorces and marriage applications, were published identically by both papers, including any mistakes, omissions, order or context. No investigation was carried out by the papers' editors to determine if the information provided by the DOH was actually accurate or, in the case of birth announcements, if the address published and provided by the registrant had any association with the geographic location of the actual birth. More than 1200 birth announcements between 1960 and 1965 were shown to contain Hawaiian addresses for registrants of births outside of the state of Hawaii, including more than three hundred in which the child was born outside of the United States.
Interesting. Any link to an article so "Crosby" can be identified more accurately?
YES! It's not hard! All that needs to be done is PUT YOUR INFORMATION on a BC. I have a friend who did this so he could drive again. He changed one letter in his last name on a REAL but FAKE(not his) BC. He got it from someone corrupt at the DOH where he was born. A little pay off and BAM, you have a perfectly legal BC to use as if you were that person. Next you go get your SSN card, then conjure up some more fake crap and go get a DL. It IS that easy. Hell, where I work, one of our state legislators got over 100 SSN cards for a group of illegal workers that came here to do a project! ANYTHING CAN BE DONE!
1,2,3 Conspiracy 4,5,6 Conspiracy, Legal Documents, Conspiracy Oh everything is a Conspiracy.
Seriously this asinine stuff needs to stop.
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