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Old 04-21-2011, 10:06 PM
 
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Must be a "natural born citizen"... Born in the U.S., which is highly questionable based on a multitude of information about him.
If you think that Obama was not born in the USA, why don't you give us your theory of exactly what happened? I've asked you this a few times now but for some reason you refuse to answer...

since you seem to believe that Obama was born in Kenya, please tell us exactly how you believe all this happened. When did Ann Dunham leave Hawaii, her family and friends, for Kenya? Why didn't she tell anybody she was leaving? Where in Kenya was Obama born then? Why would the grandparents commit all this fraud when it's not hard to get a child of an American citizen naturalized?

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Born to parents (plural) that were U.S. citizens, which is definitely not the case because Barry's father was never a U.S. citizen.
There is not a single current judge, congressman, constitutional scholar or law professor who agrees with your interpretation of the natural born citizen clause. There have been several former presidents, VPs, major party nominees and candidates who had non-citizen parents, and none ever had their citizenship seriously questioned on that basis.

 
Old 04-21-2011, 10:06 PM
 
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The problem some people have with these short-form birth certificates is they are not original documents, are produced to order and may be created whether an original long-form birth certificate exists or not.
the COLB meets with all federal standards for proof of birth.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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NO, that is NOT their prerogative. they don't have a right to see any more than they have seen already. time to move on dude

Not allowed to have their own opinion on the matter?

Thank you Chairman buzzards27!

We'll be sure to round up all those thought criminals who don't believe what they've been told is the official state-endorsed truth.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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Born in the U.S., which is highly questionable based on a multitude of information about him.
At this point it is only questionable to the blind, the dumb and the willfully stupid.

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Born to parents (plural) that were U.S. citizens, which is definitely not the case because Barry's father was never a U.S. citizen.
There is no requirement for any parents much less both to be a natural born citizen.

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Obama was never vetted,
In America the vetting is called an election. A person running for political office is vetted by the voters. There is no supreme committee of candidate qualification like in Iran or some other odd place where committees determine who and who cannot stand for election.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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The problem some people have with these short-form birth certificates is they are not original documents, are produced to order and may be created whether an original long-form birth certificate exists or not.
I could maybe, maybe, understand that if you haven't had the governor and director of the HI Dept of Health authenticate the form Obama put on his website on several occasions, including when testifying under oath. These officials are Republicans. Lingle campaigned hard against Obama. If this was a forgery, a word from her could have brought his campaign to a halt.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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oh, you can have all the loony opinions you want, but you don't have the right to demand to see whatever documents you what to see.
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Not allowed to have their own opinion on the matter?

Thank you Chairman buzzards27!

We'll be sure to round up all those thought criminals who don't believe what they've been told is the official state-endorsed truth.
move along...
 
Old 04-21-2011, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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The problem some people have with these short-form birth certificates is they are not original documents, are produced to order and may be created whether an original long-form birth certificate exists or not.
Many states do not offer long form birth certificates anymore, Hawaii doesn't, NY doesn't, etc. As far as the LAW is concerned (and that is what matters to prove eligibility) all of the information on Obama's birth certificate (which is a state certified and verified document) meets all State Dept requirements. It really is as simple as that.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 10:15 PM
 
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oh, you can have all the loony opinions you want, but you don't have the right to demand to see whatever documents you what to see. move along...
Move along? I think not.
 
Old 04-21-2011, 10:15 PM
 
Location: AL
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Birthers are as insane as the 9/11 truther groups.

Obama is a lieing sack of SH*T!
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In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't seem odd that there's so little we know about our current president, Barack Obama. For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano.

As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president.

We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue.

It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, lead some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all know about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer.."

It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow.

Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.

Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.

When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? And who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder? Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.

It certainly is very, very strange...

This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"

As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us.

George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him.

He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?

Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University...

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia, ever."

Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him."

Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia, provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia.

Some other interesting questions..

Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002?

Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order?

It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias. The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived. No wonder all his records are sealed...
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The funny part on this whole Obama birther or College-no-go is that if this was a Rep. president you left wingers would be screaming everyday but......Nothing,absolutly nothing from you people.
Its amazing that you dont find any of this the least bit odd....
 
Old 04-21-2011, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^What a bunch of lies! All have been debunked, many in this very thread.

We did not know that Lincoln suffered from depression and may have had Marfan's Syndrome until years after his death.

We did not know that Woodrow Wilson's stroke was very debilitating and his wife was the defacto president until many years after the fact.

Most Americans did not know that FDR used a wheelchair until long after his death.

We did not know that Kennedy had Addison's Disease until after his death. Oh wait, he's still alive somewhere, rooming with Elvis.

We didn't know that Reagan was showing signs of dementia as early as his first term. (Well, some of us had our suspicions.)
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