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Old 04-19-2011, 09:13 PM
 
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Correction for the NON-reader. I posted EDUCATORS...see, that isn't "educatION"...can you see the difference in those big giant words???


Well, Guess What, Who, I posted EDUCATION. Fascists used EDUCATION. Look familiar???

Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » ELEMENTARY EPIDEMIC: 11 Uncovered Videos Show School Children Performing Praises to Obama

"...disturbing videos of young school children singing/speaking praises to President Obama..."


Fascists also used THE ARTS & PROPAGANDA. Look familiar?

NEA communications director resigns - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

"This afternoon Yosi Sergant submitted his resignation from the National Endowment for the Arts. His resignation has been accepted and is effective immediately," said a spokeswoman, Sally Gifford, in a statement."

"Sergant, who helped make artist Shepard Fairey's "Hope" image ubiquitous as an organizer of Obama campaign support from artists, had seemed to mix the NEA's work -- essentially non-partisan politics -- with the administration's legislative agenda on a conference call..."

Van Jones Uses Advanced Marketing Strategies to Push Green Agenda | NewsReal Blog

"On March 3rd, former presidential Advisor for Green Jobs, Van Jones, was giving a speech to students of Colorado College on the subject of the environment. A video segment of the speech has become the subject of consternation due to some of his comments concerning parental respect..."

"The Left’s prevalence within the world of arts and entertainment has given them access to the sophisticated research that has been exerted in the quest to manipulate the human psyche, and although they claim that it is unethical to use such techniques in advertising, they are unabashed in applying these methods to potential voters."


Look to the LEFT, and you'll see the face of FASCISM.
maja:
"""Well, Guess What, Who, I posted EDUCATION. Fascists used EDUCATION. Look familiar???""""




Then WHY did you quote my post which said NOTHING about "using education"????????:r olleyes::


Originally Posted by Who?Me?!
Fascists were against Educators, UNIONS, Abortions, Gays, Believed in Symbolism like Flag PINS!, believe corporations should have power...


reMIND you of anyone? YES! Republicans and TeaBaggers"""







HUH? Why?


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Old 04-19-2011, 09:22 PM
 
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From Wikipedia, discussing the book, "Liberal Fascism," by Jonah Goldberg:

"In the book, Goldberg argues that fascist movements were and are left-wing. He states that both modern liberalism and fascism descended from progressivism, and that prior to World War II, "fascism was widely viewed as a progressive social movement with many liberal and left-wing adherents in Europe and the United States".[2]

"Goldberg writes that there was more to fascism than bigotry and genocide, and argues that bigotry and genocide were not so much a feature of Italian fascism, but rather of German Nazism, which was forced upon the Italian fascists "after the Nazis had invaded northern Italy and created a puppet government in Salò."[3]

"He argues that over time, the term fascism has lost its original meaning and has descended to the level of being "a modern word for 'heretic,' branding an individual worthy of excommunication from the body politic", noting that in 1946 George Orwell described the word as no longer having any meaning except to signify "something not desirable".[4][4][5]

Liberal Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good book.
Oh, goodie for you! You found a book that decribes Fascism PRIOR to WW II ...an OPINION that seems to agree with yours!!!....how convenient but it's still ONLY an opinion....the facts are quite different....Repubs LOVE Fascism (by the TRUE definition)....
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:52 PM
 
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Oh, goodie for you! You found a book that decribes Fascism PRIOR to WW II ...an OPINION that seems to agree with yours!!!....how convenient but it's still ONLY an opinion....the facts are quite different....Repubs LOVE Fascism (by the TRUE definition)....
Care to actually address the FACTS I previously responded with? Here, I'll repeat them for you.

Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » ELEMENTARY EPIDEMIC: 11 Uncovered Videos Show School Children Performing Praises to Obama
Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » ELEMENTARY EPIDEMIC: 11 Uncovered Videos Show School Children Performing Praises to Obama

"...disturbing videos of young school children singing/speaking praises to President Obama..."


Fascists also used THE ARTS & PROPAGANDA. Look familiar?

NEA communications director resigns - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
NEA communications director resigns - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

"This afternoon Yosi Sergant submitted his resignation from the National Endowment for the Arts. His resignation has been accepted and is effective immediately," said a spokeswoman, Sally Gifford, in a statement."

"Sergant, who helped make artist Shepard Fairey's "Hope" image ubiquitous as an organizer of Obama campaign support from artists, had seemed to mix the NEA's work -- essentially non-partisan politics -- with the administration's legislative agenda on a conference call..."

Van Jones Uses Advanced Marketing Strategies to Push Green Agenda | NewsReal Blog

"On March 3rd, former presidential Advisor for Green Jobs, Van Jones, was giving a speech to students of Colorado College on the subject of the environment. A video segment of the speech has become the subject of consternation due to some of his comments concerning parental respect..."

"The Left’s prevalence within the world of arts and entertainment has given them access to the sophisticated research that has been exerted in the quest to manipulate the human psyche, and although they claim that it is unethical to use such techniques in advertising, they are unabashed in applying these methods to potential voters

These are blatant examples of the PROPAGANDA and use of THE ARTS & EDUCATION by the LEFT - PURE FASCIST TACTICS.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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Care to actually address the FACTS I previously responded with? Here, I'll repeat them for you.

Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » ELEMENTARY EPIDEMIC: 11 Uncovered Videos Show School Children Performing Praises to Obama
Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » ELEMENTARY EPIDEMIC: 11 Uncovered Videos Show School Children Performing Praises to Obama

"...disturbing videos of young school children singing/speaking praises to President Obama..."


Fascists also used THE ARTS & PROPAGANDA. Look familiar?

NEA communications director resigns - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
NEA communications director resigns - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

"This afternoon Yosi Sergant submitted his resignation from the National Endowment for the Arts. His resignation has been accepted and is effective immediately," said a spokeswoman, Sally Gifford, in a statement."

"Sergant, who helped make artist Shepard Fairey's "Hope" image ubiquitous as an organizer of Obama campaign support from artists, had seemed to mix the NEA's work -- essentially non-partisan politics -- with the administration's legislative agenda on a conference call..."

Van Jones Uses Advanced Marketing Strategies to Push Green Agenda | NewsReal Blog

"On March 3rd, former presidential Advisor for Green Jobs, Van Jones, was giving a speech to students of Colorado College on the subject of the environment. A video segment of the speech has become the subject of consternation due to some of his comments concerning parental respect..."

"The Left’s prevalence within the world of arts and entertainment has given them access to the sophisticated research that has been exerted in the quest to manipulate the human psyche, and although they claim that it is unethical to use such techniques in advertising, they are unabashed in applying these methods to potential voters

These are blatant examples of the PROPAGANDA and use of THE ARTS & EDUCATION by the LEFT - PURE FASCIST TACTICS.
maja:""Care to actually address the FACTS I previously responded with? Here, I'll repeat them for you. ""



Why? First, you posted OPINION, nothing more. Second, you never responded to my post...especially post 91....

The whole problem started because you refuse to see the difference between the words "educaTOR" (my word) and "educaTION", YOUR word.


Maybe if you didn't hate education and educators so much you would understand the difference.


The FACT is , Repugs and teabaggers attacked educaTORS, just like Fascists, in Wisconsin (and other states).
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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american liberals are fascists marxists...that is FACT

american liberals care NOT about the individual, but how to make you conform totheir 'society'

american liberals think not of freedom, but of regulatory CHAINS

american liberals want the SLAVERY of the people, to do their bidding

american liberals talk of the 'evil' corporations, then behind your back support those very same corporations, and have the unions (also a corporation) do their bidding



american liberal unions use their flag waving, slogans to pump up the 'nationalism' in their base...slogans like 'solidarity'

spin as much as you want..but that is what is happening.. and has been since the 1880's when the 'progressives' (liberals) stared taking over the democrat party
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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The left would have you believe that the teachers union protests are simply about “the people” and “the middle class”. The union supporters have denied that these protests have anything to do with socialism or Marxism, even though we know that America’s unions were created by socialists and Marxists. What is the “Solidarity Forever” song that the unionists all sing about? Who wrote it? Who published it?

SOLIDARITY FOREVER!
By Ralph H. Chaplin, 1915
(Tune: “John Brown’s Body”)
When the Union’s inspiration through the worker’s blood shall run,
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun.
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one?
But the Union makes us strong.

CHORUS
Solidarity forever!
Solidarity forever!
Solidarity forever!
But the Union makes us strong.
.
.
.
.
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Cute, the songwriter, Ralph Chaplin, calls capitalists, “greedy parasites” and then goes on to regurgitate rehashed Marx and Engels in the style of the typical, self-entitled, collectivist everyman.

Chaplin was originally a communist who would later work for the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) organization, which was created by two hundred socialists, anarchists, and radical trade unionists. The IWW’s members are known as Wobblies… fitting. Later, Chaplin became a socialist, because his communist paradigm was shaken by the fact the Marxist revolutionaries killed people to meet their goals in the Russian Revolution. Ralph was yet another collectivist idealist ignorant to history and human nature.

The IWW had a newspaper named, “Solidarity” and Chaplin, a poet, was one of their leaders and he worked as an editor, “journalist”, and illustrator.

“Solidarity Forever” was originally published in IWW’s “Little Red Songbook” , the purpose of which is to “fan the flames of discontent” – red being the color of socialists and communists. The song has been recorded by Pete Seeger, Joe Glazer, and the Almanac Singers – all communists. The song has also been performed numerous times by lefty fave, Utah Phillips, another communist. Other songs in the “Little Red Songbook” hail socialism and Sam Gompers, a Marxist, who created the AFL (now the AFL-CIO, America’s largest union organization).


in The IWW’s Preamble :

It is the historic mission of the working class to do away with capitalism. The army of production must be organized, not only for the every day struggle with capitalists, but also to carry on production when capitalism shall have been overthrown. By organizing industrially we are forming the structure of the new society within the shell of the old. Knowing, therefore, that such an organization is absolutely necessary for our emancipation, we unite under the following constitution:

The IWW’s preamble is straight-up Marxism. And these words are the basis for many legal actions taken against the group because it proves that the IWW is a subversive organization and a threat to American liberty.




liberals are fascists
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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american liberals are fascists marxists...that is FACT
LOL, your FACTS. You like to parrot same thing over and over without ever engaging in a debate. Here is an opportunity...

It requires only a functioning brain to realize that Fascists were opposed to Communists and Marxist ideologies. So, what idea of yours compels you to this belief of this 'fascist marxist' when one is about power in the hands of corporations and the other in the hand of the people? For that matter, what Marxist ideas did the Fascist implement? List them.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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LOL, your FACTS. You like to parrot same thing over and over without ever engaging in a debate. Here is an opportunity...

It requires only a functioning brain to realize that Fascists were opposed to Communists and Marxist ideologies. So, what idea of yours compels you to this belief of this 'fascist marxist' when one is about power in the hands of corporations and the other in the hand of the people? For that matter, what Marxist ideas did the Fascist implement? List them.
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realize that Fascists were opposed to Communists and Marxist ideologies.
that's like saying liberals are opposed to democrat ideas...same family

fact ...socialist, communist, fascist all stem from marxism...that is fact
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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american liberals are fascists marxists...that is FACT

american liberals care NOT about the individual, but how to make you conform totheir 'society'

american liberals think not of freedom, but of regulatory CHAINS

american liberals want the SLAVERY of the people, to do their bidding

american liberals talk of the 'evil' corporations, then behind your back support those very same corporations, and have the unions (also a corporation) do their bidding



american liberal unions use their flag waving, slogans to pump up the 'nationalism' in their base...slogans like 'solidarity'

spin as much as you want..but that is what is happening.. and has been since the 1880's when the 'progressives' (liberals) stared taking over the democrat party
"""american liberal unions use their flag waving, slogans to pump up the 'nationalism' in their base...slogans like 'solidarity'""



So you hate flag waving?

AND SARAH PALIN used the word SOLIDARITY to decribe TEABAGGERS last Saturday in Madison...
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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that's like saying liberals are opposed to democrat ideas...same family

fact ...socialist, communist, fascist all stem from marxism...that is fact
No, that is what you like to parrot. You remind me of a typical character that comes out "educated" from a Madarsa, only to keep repeating a belief without ever showing any inclination to logically engage in a debate.

If you want to change that, explain to me how exactly did the Fascists implement Marxist ideology.
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