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Old 03-19-2011, 12:35 PM
 
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Good point. Disapproval doesn't mean they (the churlish masses) will obstruct liberty.

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Also, there may be people who think gay marriage should be legal, but that doesn't mean they all approve of same sex marriage. According to Gallup, as recently as the 1990s, more people disapproved of marriages between blacks and whites than approved of it. Probably most of them thought black-white marriages should be legal, but many didn't approve of it.
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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This poll gives more detail and description from the United States, Canada, Britain about their views on homosexual marriages, whether marriage should be defined as between a man and a woman or between any two people etc. In some parts of the survey, in the United States those born from 1980-1995 showed more negativeness about homosexuality than those born from 1965-1979 and the younger generation are more likely to say that homosexuality is a choice.

http://www.visioncritical.com/wp-con...26_SameSex.pdf
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:05 PM
 
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Also, there may be people who think gay marriage should be legal, but that doesn't mean they all approve of same sex marriage. According to Gallup, as recently as the 1990s, more people disapproved of marriages between blacks and whites than approved of it. Probably most of them thought black-white marriages should be legal, but many didn't approve of it.
Good point, there are plenty of things that I think should be legal that I don't personally approve of: marijuana, prostitution, a woman's right to choose among other things. I think that a lot of people who want to ban gay marriage are not distinguishing between their personal disapproval of homosexuality and a desire to use the full force of law to deny legal equality.
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Polls on this subject are meaningless. By now we should know that.

All that matters is what occurs in the polling booth.
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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This poll gives more detail and description from the United States, Canada, Britain about their views on homosexual marriages, whether marriage should be defined as between a man and a woman or between any two people etc. In some parts of the survey, in the United States those born from 1980-1995 showed more negativeness about homosexuality than those born from 1965-1979 and the younger generation are more likely to say that homosexuality is a choice.

http://www.visioncritical.com/wp-con...26_SameSex.pdf
42% of those born 65-79 say same sex couples should be allowed to Marry.

48% of those born 80-95 say those should be allowed.

Prior to 1964 it is only 29%

That does not show more negativity amoung the youth.
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Polls on this subject are meaningless. By now we should know that.

All that matters is what occurs in the polling booth.
No, opinion polls do matter, obviously. If they didn't, we wouldn't hear about Obama's approval ratings on a daily basis.

Also, although we like to think that the Supreme Court is unbiased, studies show that their rulings often shift along with public attitudes.

And regardless of what happens in the polling booths, it is the courts that will have the final word on this issue, not the voters.
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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42% of those born 65-79 say same sex couples should be allowed to Marry.

48% of those born 80-95 say those should be allowed.

Prior to 1964 it is only 29%

That does not show more negativity amoung the youth.
On the issue if your favorite actor came out as gay, 22% of the those born from 1980-1995 said their view of that actor would worsen, compared to 15% among those born from 1965-1979, 21% of those 1946-1964, and 20% of those before 1946.

On the topic if their favorite male sports figure came out as gay, 24% of those born from 1980-1995 said their view of that person would worsen, compared to 18% of those born from 1965-1979.
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Old 03-19-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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On the issue if your favorite actor came out as gay, 22% of the those born from 1980-1995 said their view of that actor would worsen, compared to 15% among those born from 1965-1979, 21% of those 1946-1964, and 20% of those before 1946.

On the topic if their favorite male sports figure came out as gay, 24% of those born from 1980-1995 said their view of that person would worsen, compared to 18% of those born from 1965-1979.
I would guess that is more to do with idol worship and youthful crushes. As you age you grow out of that.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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5 Years ago there were about 20 million Millennial generation not of voting age and millions more older people who were. As they die off and more Millennials become of voting age, that percentage of support will skyrocket.

The Millennial are very tolerant and accepting of homosexuals and of all races. Many of todays issues will just die off.

That being said I don't care what the percentages are, it is not a majority rule issue, it is a basic rights issue. This is why the government should be out of the marriage business.
The support among millennials is like 55-45 or close. It's not above 60 percent. Yes the generation is more tolerant overall but if it was as tolerant as it's made out to be there wouldn't be millions of gay kids bullied into the closet, committing suicide, or being murdered. Support of gay marriage doesnt necessarily equate to affirmation, as one poster above illustrated with interracial marriage.
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Old 03-19-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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The support among millennials is like 55-45 or close. It's not above 60 percent. Yes the generation is more tolerant overall but if it was as tolerant as it's made out to be there wouldn't be millions of gay kids bullied into the closet, committing suicide, or being murdered. Support of gay marriage doesnt necessarily equate to affirmation, as one poster above illustrated with interracial marriage.
Of course but again part of that is just being young, I imagine the percentage will grow some with time. Plus, as I say the 30-70% generation is dying off.
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