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Old 03-20-2011, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Scates View Post
Give the unions more control and screw the investors.
Nothing so screws over unions, all other non union company employees, innovative technology and investors quite the way boardroom politico- economics have done since 1979. The proof is in the pudding.
The family has been a major backer of President Bush, who is a staunch proponent of abolishing the estate tax. Former chairman W.R. “Tim” Timken, Jr. was the finance co-chair of Bush’s 2004 campaign in Ohio and achieved “Ranger” fundraiser status, having raised at least $200,000 for the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign. 197 The Timken family contributed $100,000 to Bush’s first inaugural celebration and the company itself contributed $250,000 to the second.198 After Bush was reelected, W. R. “Tim” Timken, Jr. was appointed ambassador to Germany, despite the fact that he spoke no German and had no diplomatic experience. He passed the company’s chairmanship of the company on to Ward J. “Tim” Timken Jr, the fifth generation Timken family chairman.199 Another Timken, John M. Timken, Jr., sits on the company’s board. These three Timkens and trusts they control collectively own about $201.5 million in company stock.200

Bush visited a Timken plant in Canton, Ohio, in April 2003 to talk up his 2001 tax cut package – which included the estate tax phase-out – and to push for new tax cuts, saying they would create a million new jobs by the end of 2004. 201 In fact, the first set of tax cuts had helped push the Timken Company’s taxes so low that the company didn’t pay any corporate income taxes at all for two years during Bush’s first term.202 The company had also seen its profits rise from $38.7 million in 2002 to $260.3 million in 2005 and had received $395 million in government subsidies from 2001 to 2004 under a federal anti-dumping trade program. 203 In mid 2004, however, the company told its Canton workers, just before contract negotiations, that it intended to cut at least 900 jobs. Its hardball tactics enabled it to extract concessions from the union on health care benefits in exchange for a guarantee that at least 500 of the jobs would be saved.204
No allegiance to America. Zero commitment to the community they operate in. Exploit the representation system of America for personal gain at the expense of Ohio, foreign relations with Germany, all taxpayers at large, and our very nation. Use the government as a catspaw to abuse unions. These are not men. They're jackals in need of prison sentence shoveling horse sh*t for the rest of their ungodly lives.
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Old 03-20-2011, 06:47 PM
Location: Columbia MO
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The Liberal Democrats, but unfortunately they're in the UK.
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Old 03-20-2011, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by calmdude View Post
Neither party supports middle class.

Rs rob middle class to benefit the rich.
Ds rob middle class to benefit the poor.

Maybe Ds support middle class a bit more.....
This would be the smile on the dog coming from Ron Paul. He knows they mean well. They mean to forge a fair deal. They just can't see the 5 moves ahead this other class of characters are operating. The ones above paying taxes and demanding American law serve only themselves.
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by harborlady View Post
Agreed, but do you expect otherwise when the rules are crooked?

Are we supposed to be grateful he didn't go on a shooting rampage or vengefully prey on real estate agents? Perhaps he might recall the purpose of having allegiances to his family, his community, and his country rather than toking on a politically sponsored prosperity preachers crack pipe?

However high and mighty/ smarter than the average bear he thought he was, he doesn't appear to realize just yet that he actively fed the very monster consuming his life's work from day one. Expect the very same thing to happen to medical students graduating with $150k debt greeted at the employment door with 30k salaries unless they toe the line for bean counters profiteering from human misery. The very same meet and greet is happening for lawyers, as if any of them are allowed to adhere to the <formerly noble> principles of the profession without taking a vow of poverty.

Question: How many more assaults to the pillars of community are people going to play into before they wake up and smell the Koch agenda? How much money is it going to take to bail out conservatives who sold their soul to Machiavelli just to be on the winning side? How long are democrats going to tolerate conservatives (ex. clinton) crowding into their party? If you can't win honestly, there's nothing worthy of being won. True of all parties. DC is a cesspool and they hold our most precious and priceless national treasures hostage for a hamburger today. For anyone too young to know that reference...

The mooches are not the bottom quintile. They're multi billionaires playing all sides against one another from remote control.


The only people who get to be above all this trashing of capitalism/ power plays are the Amish. That is until the Chinese start collecting their property taxes. Food for thought.
You whoop em good girl!
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