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Imagine that, a religion with laws created by men, for men that denigrate women.
Sounds perfectly god-like and legal to me!
The women should just shut up and take it they were born to be second class to a man because "Allah" said so.
What crockery.
If they choose that in religion that is their choice. However, the move to normalize Sharia in the West is about inserting political Islam into Western courts. Sharia destroys equal protection under the law. How is that difficult to understand?
If they choose that in religion that is their choice. However, the move to normalize Sharia in the West is about inserting political Islam into Western courts. Sharia destroys equal protection under the law. How is that difficult to understand?
Every religion does, including Christian, Jew, Hindu, Sikh, and even Buddhists (Sri Lanka). The key to defending equal protection, hence, is not in targeting other religions, but respecting secular nation. We have laws against all vices that can be listed out of the Quran and the Bible, and at the same time we are also expected to be grown ups to respect their good side. After all, why would we want to out law an aspect of Sharia that demands that people pray for the sick and visit them?
If they choose that in religion that is their choice. However, the move to normalize Sharia in the West is about inserting political Islam into Western courts. Sharia destroys equal protection under the law. How is that difficult to understand?
There are some "God-fearing social conservative" types on these boards who want American law to revert to what it was in the 19th century, and even to abolish the 14th Amendment. In the 19th century US women did not have equal protection under the law nor the vote. Women didn't have the vote until 1918 nationwide (although women in certain Western states could vote even in the late 19th century in state elections). Discrimination on the basis of sex was legal in the US until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (ironically said language was inserted into the bill by Dixiecrats who thought the notion of prohibiting discrimination against women was so ludicrous that it would kill the bill - didn't work out that way) and the Equal Rights Amendment never was passed (despite being supported officially by every GOP presidential candidate from Willkie to Ford, and being supported by the candidates of both parties in 1972 and 1976).
The bottom line is that said equal protection is opposed by many of your fellow "social con" types more than liberals, and said SoCons would probably be more at home with Sharia than any liberals or moderates.
There are some "God-fearing social conservative" types on these boards who want American law to revert to what it was in the 19th century, and even to abolish the 14th Amendment. In the 19th century US women did not have equal protection under the law nor the vote. Women didn't have the vote until 1918 nationwide (although women in certain Western states could vote even in the late 19th century in state elections). Discrimination on the basis of sex was legal in the US until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (ironically said language was inserted into the bill by Dixiecrats who thought the notion of prohibiting discrimination against women was so ludicrous that it would kill the bill - didn't work out that way) and the Equal Rights Amendment never was passed (despite being supported officially by every GOP presidential candidate from Willkie to Ford, and being supported by the candidates of both parties in 1972 and 1976).
The bottom line is that said equal protection is opposed by many of your fellow "social con" types more than liberals, and said SoCons would probably be more at home with Sharia than any liberals or moderates.
Care to stick to the subject of Sharia rather than thread hijacking?
All I know is that they're good at cutting stuff off.
Perhaps you should realize than when you start a comment with "All I know is..." you have just admitted that you don't even pretend to know very much. Again... I am not defending Islam since I believe it to have been a disaster for humanity in general and Muslims in particular. But if you are going to oppose an idea, you should actually understand the idea you are opposing. Otherwise it looks pretty much like simple blinkered bigotry.
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They cut out your tongue for drinking alcohol.
No. They do not. In fact, there is no Islamic penalty of tongue excision for any offense whatsoever.
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It's true they cut off heads for lying not cut out tongues, however lying is allowed in Islam.
No. They do not cut off heads for lying either.
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Takkiyah is what allows them to lie without any fear of retribution.
Some cousin of that.
Taqiyya allows them to pretend to not be Muslim if they are being persecuted for their faith. It has no broader implication.
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No way you can claim they don't cut out tongues in Sharia... Honor killings often include tongue excision.
Honor killings are not Shari'a either. And I can honestly tell you... I have never ever heard of a tongue excision as part of an honor killing.
As far as I can tell you are pretty much making most this up as you go.
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