Seattle cop kills man holding a 3 inch knife. Shoots him a few times to make sure he's dead and stuff. (drugs, cost)

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by JobZombie

Why would Mr. Williams or anyone for that matter be standing there holding a knife in the presence of a police officer anyway? The officer acted appropriately.

The cop should have turned tail and run away, being the coward he is.

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by outbacknv

They also have a right to use reasonable force to ensure they are alive to return home after work. The other means of stopping the threat have very little likelihood of success against an edged weapon at close distance (yes, 25' is close).

It's easy to pass judgment after all the facts are in. It's not nearly as easy to make a split second decision that won't be Monday morning quarterbacked to pieces when faced with potentially deadly force.

Nothing in this incident points to anything even remotely resembling murder by the officer involved.

yes 25' is close, but not the distance of 7 yards or 21' which is the distance that the knife is more effective than a pistol is when not prepared.

so the cop was in the wrong and should be prosecuted for it. as a private citizen I would probably be going to jail, whereas the cop just gets off scotfree.

[TBCasino]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

the cop should be fired and prosecuted for murdering a citizen. they have other means at stopping the threat which could have stopped the man which did not include murder.

You have no idea what you are talking about. None.

[TBCasino]

Originally Posted by phillies2011

if he does decide to open the knife then i could see shooting him, in the leg...

You also have no clue. Shoot him in the leg? Really? Listen, turn off CSI or whatever BS movies you've been watching on the television. It can only help.

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by TBCasino

You have no idea what you are talking about. None.

actually I do, plus have gone through the training for it in both the military and civilian life.

[outbacknv]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

yes 25' is close, but not the distance of 7 yards or 21' which is the distance that the knife is more effective than a pistol is when not prepared.

so the cop was in the wrong and should be prosecuted for it. as a private citizen I would probably be going to jail, whereas the cop just gets off scotfree.

So you're essentially saying the officer while under the stress of a potentially lethal encounter should have been able to visually determine that the individual with the weapon was four feet further away than the distance at which a knife can be more effective than a gun. That is not even remotely realistic.

As a private citizen you'd have had no reason to be involved in the incident to begin with. You would have had the options to either not become involved or to disengage.

[ergohead]

Guess I'd better not take my letter opener to the post office to open the mail there.

[lifelongMOgal]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

yes 25' is close, but not the distance of 7 yards or 21' which is the distance that the knife is more effective than a pistol is when not prepared.

so the cop was in the wrong and should be prosecuted for it. as a private citizen I would probably be going to jail, whereas the cop just gets off scotfree.

Actually LAPD revised the standard for the Teuller Drill from 21' to 25' several years ago.

[AONE]

Originally Posted by Strel

The carotid artery is a lot less than three inches from the surface of your neck.

Only if the knife is open.... Im yet to hear of a serious injury from a closed blade on a knife.

What a great attribute to the police force. He can reason so well... Makes me feel safe to go to Seattle

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal

Actually LAPD revised the standard for the Teuller Drill from 21' to 25' several years ago.

it is still being taught here in CCW classes and other protection courses as 21 feet.