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The blame lies with both parties, the Democrats for failing to pass the 2011 budget last year and the Republicans for be unwilling to compromise, the GOP will take the blame if a government shutdown were to occur. I cannot see that is will come to this despite what the media is reporting, both parties have to much to lose and nothing to gain if the government shuts down.
Last edited by ajzjmsmom; 03-31-2011 at 09:50 AM..
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Actually, I blame the Democrats for not passing the appropriations bills when they controlled the House, Senate and White House. The only reason we have a continuing resolution is because the Democrats did NOTHING when they had the power to pass any budget bill they wanted to pass.
Well, yeah, but they had the handy, blame the Republicans, to use for their lack of action. Like the nasty Republicans keep filibustering us and so on. Yep they really have some people who believe that budgeting is wrong and just spending as it is needed is the way to go,
Good point. The Dems have already offered a whole bunch of compramises, to the point of upsetting much of their base (as usual, see "spineless democrats" stereotyoe). But Republicans don't want to compramise. There's not much more the dems can really do that wouldn't be straight betrayal of the people who voted for them....
I see that like Tempest, you have failed to see Chuck U. Schumer's words on that telephone call Tuesday. I would hope that some of you get a chance to hear or read his words before you get in any deeper.
As far as who should be blamed, that will depend on what Congress and the President does or does not do. If the House fails to pass a bill that includes massive spending cuts, then the House deserves the blame. If the House passes a bill that includes massive spending cuts and the Senate does not pass the bill or something similar, then the Senate should get the blame. If both houses of Congress passes a bill that includes massive spending cuts and Obama vetoes the bill, then Obama should be blamed.
Here we have all the blame the other guys and finally someone comes up with what will be the reason nothing can be done. The veto will come if we get anything that doesn't have a heavy Democrat stamp on it.
I see that like Tempest, you have failed to see Chuck U. Schumer's words on that telephone call Tuesday. I would hope that some of you get a chance to hear or read his words before you get in any deeper.
Never count on progs to actually read or watch anything that could remotely challenge their views
Here we have all the blame the other guys and finally someone comes up with what will be the reason nothing can be done. The veto will come if we get anything that doesn't have a heavy Democrat stamp on it.
That may be true, but if Congress does their job and passes a bill (regardless of whether we like it or not), then they cannot be blamed. In 1984 Reagan vetoed the budget the Democrat controlled Congress passed, and it shut down government. Therefore, Reagan was to blame since Congress did their job. In 1995 Clinton vetoed the budget the Republican controlled Congress passed, and it shut down government. Therefore, Clinton was to blame since Congress did their job. The same thing will be true if Obama vetoes a bill passed by this Congress and shuts down government, regardless of how the pro-Obama media wants to spin it.
How about get a clue: The Republicans were elected because people were angry at the Democrats. Most people actually do want compromise. (And no cuts to the entitlement, which frankly I think it unrealistic.) The Republicans would do well to remember that they were elected in large part because the Democrats failed to get anything done. No one who wasn't strongly right to begin with gives a flying aardvark about the Republican's Contract for America.
I am apt to agree with LauraC, if the Dems had actually done something when they had the chance, we wouldn't be here now. Possibly for a variety of reasons.
Who did you vote for? If it was for any democrat you have no idea why anyone else voted.
You need to get a clue.
Last edited by Quick Enough; 03-31-2011 at 09:22 AM..
That may be true, but if Congress does their job and passes a bill (regardless of whether we like it or not), then they cannot be blamed. In 1984 Reagan vetoed the budget the Democrat controlled Congress passed, and it shut down government. Therefore, Reagan was to blame since Congress did their job. In 1995 Clinton vetoed the budget the Republican controlled Congress passed, and it shut down government. Therefore, Clinton was to blame since Congress did their job. The same thing will be true if Obama vetoes a bill passed by this Congress and shuts down government, regardless of how the pro-Obama media wants to spin it.
Isn't this budget bill sitting on Harry's desk?
Or am I confused when Boehner said the senate needed to pass it or send them something?
The blame lies with both parties, the Democrats for failing to pass the 2011 budget last year and the Republicans for be unwilling to compromise, the GOP will take the blame if a government shutdown were to occur. I cannot see that is will come to thisdespite what the media is reporting, both parties have to much to lose and much to gain if the government shuts down.
I don't understand how you say the GOP will take the blame. The dems had control of the total gov't. It is their job to pass a budget, they didn't. Now the repubs are in control of the House only. The repubs passed a budget. They did their part. now it is up to the senate and the pres. to do their jobs.
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