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Old 08-04-2007, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Tri-Cities, TN
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You know, that's a good question. It's hard telling what was in the back of their minds, we'll probably never know.

but so many people blame Iraq on we went after Sodamn Insane. Partly. Others blame it on WMD. Partly. Others say it was the terrorists. Partly. but the biggest reason was that that country had surrendered in 1991 with conditions that they allow us to have Weapons inspectors insure they were shutting down. They played the shell game with our inspectors. They'd move biologics and material a day before the inspectors would be there. Then they kicked them out of the country and wouldn't stick with their surrender agreements. Couple that with 9/11 and the attackers running and hiding in Iraq and Iraq wouldn't turn them over or let us come in to search for them and oh oh, we have a war.

But like you say, how much of it is thoughts of oil?
Try this, go to google earth & try the FREE version. Now, note that there are , what, two more levels that the general public can purchase ??? Each one getting you closer to the ground & higher detail ??? Now, just imagine if that is what is offered to the public, WHAT CAPABILITIES DOES THE "MILITARY VERSION" HAVE ???
Also consider that, now, they offer real time street level viewing to the public.
HOW LONG HAS THE GOVERNMENT HAD THIS ABILITY ???
Taking all that into consideration, do you honestly believe that Saddam, or your neighbor for that matter, could pull his car out of the garage without being seen. Let alone TRUCKLOADS OF WEAPONS OF MASS DECEPTION Bottom line is, there was really no need for inspectors in the first place !!!
Also of note, those were UN inspectors, not US inpectors !!! THERE IS A DIFFERENCE !!!
LASTLY, WE SHOULD NOT BE GOING TO WAR UNLESS CONGRESS DECLARES WAR & CONGRESS SHOULD NOT DECLARE WAR OVER UN SANCTIONS !!!
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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I'm curious if you agree then that the world bankers knocked off JFK, because he was getting rid of the fat cats and the Federal Reserve, and changing the monetary policy of the United States. If so, were you convinced of this in 1963? Or after a number of years.

I have seen many videos of the 911 WTC's, and not one of them has collaborated the official report. The only collaboration I've seen of the official report is from the administration that made the report. If you have any real evidence then you are welcome to post a video that shows an airplane that knocked down the towers. I would like to see it.

Other than that, most all of the witnesses state, and all of the videos show the towers were demolished by explosives. In fact it's surprising if you have seen a lot of videos of 911 that you can't see this and come to this conclusion yourself. I could see this immediately the first day when the collapse of the towers was shown in TV.

What happened to the towers then. Are they still standing up? Are you saying they couldn't have been knocked down by explosives but they could have been by an airplane? If so, then why aren't buildings demolished by airplanes, as that would sure save a lot of time preparing the buildings with explosives.

I've never seen any supposed terrorist say such a thing. Please provide a video where they do, and not one provided by CIA operatives, donning masks or otherwise. Show me a video of a telecast speech, where there is no question of the speaker's identity.

Ridiculous. The U.S. is invading their countries. Of course they want the U.S. out of their countries. But I haven't seen any Muslim airplanes or ships over here in the United States. Are there any Muslim armies invading us? If you have any evidence to show that they are then feel welcome to provide it.
Man I hope you take those blinders off before you drive to work. We have kids playing near by.

You asked him for proof of everything that happened, and yet, you provided absolutley none yourself. Good job.
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:57 AM
 
Location: California
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Default National Security & Homeland Security Presidential Directive

"This document, signed on May 9, 2007, declares that in the event of a 'catastrophic event,' George W. Bush can become what is best described as a dictator" (quotation from [url=http://www.globalresearch.ca]GlobalResearch.ca - Centre for Research on Globalization[/url]). Don't take my word for it, read it yourself.

Early warning signs of FASCISM: powerful and continuing nationalism; disdain for human rights; identification of enemies as a unifying cause; supremacy of the military (and paramilitary: Blackwater?); rampant sexism; controlled mass media; obsession with national security; religion and government intertwined; corporate power protected; labor power suppressed; disdain for intellectuals & the arts; obsession with crime & punishment; rampant cronyism & corruption; fraudulent elections. Sound familiar?

Who said this: "Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be easily brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." Hermann Goering, Commander in Chief of the Luftwaffe and Hitler's designated successor, 1939.
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Old 03-23-2008, 02:24 AM
 
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There will be more attacks because Muslims have been at it long before Bush was president and we are just a bunch of infidels that should be eliminated unless we roll over and praise Allah. Bush, like presidents before him, is culpable in the basic fact that it is his job to protect our borders and right to a sovereign nation. Taxpayers are paying through the nose for homeland security. Where’s the fence?
No NO NO \\ It's not Muslims. Bush first oil company was funded by BIN LADEN silly. C mon do your home work even I know that. LOL
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:59 AM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Bush, like presidents before him, is culpable in the basic fact that it is his job to protect our borders and right to a sovereign nation. Taxpayers are paying through the nose for homeland security. Where’s the fence?
I think you fell into Fascism (see Mediator's post). The fence is to keep Americans in--you have to know that they mean the opposite of what they say. The elites want to keep the common people divided thus the "immigration" debate. Immigration is just a cover for the Fortress America plan; think of the U.S.A. as a giant prison.

With all this coverage about Iraq, where is Bin Laden? Afghanistan is American's forgotten war. Was Iraq a distraction to keep the spotlight off of Bin Laden? Why would a distraction be necessary? Probably because they are in cahoots with each other.
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Old 03-23-2008, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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What happened? Did someone forget to lock the door at the asylum or something? Where are all these conspiracy threads/posts/nuts coming from all of the sudden?
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Tri-Cities, TN
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Where are all these conspiracy threads/posts/nuts coming from all of the sudden?
THE AWAKENED!!!
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