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Old 04-01-2011, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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The plan, if approved by the Republican-dominated legislature, would mark the first time the state-federal health-care program for the poor has charged people for engaging in behavior deemed unhealthy.
Some companies have insurance surcharges for employees who smoke, but they aren't a staple of government-administered health programs.
Republican Gov. Jan Brewer proposed the idea as part of a broader plan to raise money that would allow the state to offset recent cuts she engineered to its Medicaid program. If ratified, the measure would revive coverage of organ transplants, which Arizona limited last year as a way to save money. It would also reduce the number of childless adults disqualified from Medicaid to 135,000, compared with the original proposal of 250,000.


Arizona Proposes Medicare Fat Fee - WSJ.com

Like it ! Obeses and smokers must pay fees because they're costly
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Orlando Metro Area
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More nanny state government from Republicans. Why not also include riding a motorcycle, crossing a street, living in a bad neighborhood, those working hazardous jobs, those who drink wine & beer, horseback riders, sports players, and so on. For all the talk about smaller, less-intrusive, government, you guys sure do know how to embarrass yourselves.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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More nanny state government from Republicans. Why not also include riding a motorcycle, crossing a street, living in a bad neighborhood, those working hazardous jobs, those who drink wine & beer, horseback riders, sports players, and so on. For all the talk about smaller, less-intrusive, government, you guys sure do know how to embarrass yourselves.
Oh yeah you're right, let's keep wasting money...
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Like anybody couldn't see this coming, sooner or later.

I'd have to ask the same question I've asked since the health Nazi's went after smokers: Where does it end? Just about ANY activity can be deemed to be "unhealthy" or "unsafe," so at what point do we stop this relentless assault on individual liberty in the name of "health?"

Last edited by stillkit; 04-01-2011 at 05:39 AM.. Reason: spelling
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Orlando Metro Area
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Oh yeah you're right, let's keep wasting money...
Giving all people health coverage is not a waste of money. Let's stop wasting money on business tax cuts and perhaps the states would not be having such a revenue issue.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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If you want gubmint money, you live under gubmint rules.

No one is forcing you to use it.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Orlando Metro Area
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If you want gubmint money, you live under gubmint rules.

No one is forcing you to use it.
Now which side sounds like the communist?
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Giving all people health coverage is not a waste of money. Let's stop wasting money on business tax cuts and perhaps the states would not be having such a revenue issue.
People wants jobs, you don't have jobs with high business taxes.
You didn't study economics, it's so obvious...
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Now which side sounds like the communist?
The second sentence of my reply is completely inconsistent with communism. Under communism you are forced to use the State's resources with no alternative.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Orlando Metro Area
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People wants jobs, you don't have jobs with high business taxes.
You didn't study economics, it's so obvious...
Just cause it's not your view of economics, doesn't mean it's wrong. You obvious support trickle-down theories, and I believe a different one. We'll give it till 2012 to see how your gang does but after 8 years of cutting taxes under the last administration, this recession is proof positive of what happens when your forsake the middle class income earners.

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The second sentence of my reply is completely inconsistent with communism. Under communism you are forced to use the State's resources with no alternative.
True but the first part reveals your motives...
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