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Maybe not like you saw in the video, but probably given morphine for pain, ending with the same result...
Even if it might have resulted in her death (morphine), my mother would not have wanted it in any way, shape, or form, not even for "comfort." She didn't want to go to Hospice because she thought "they starve you to death there." Little did she know, she would (involuntarily) hospice herself, by slipping into a coma-like state, unable to swallow, therefore not being able to eat.
Fortunately, she was gone in less than 24 hours, not the four days it took her mother to be relieved of her suffering.
Killing one's self is suicide. Another individual killing that person is murder. Euthanasia is just a euphemism for murder (cooked up by Hitler no less). Call it what it is. And there is a very dangerous slippery slope from a person requesting to be killed to it becoming involuntary.
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Originally Posted by Macrina
Euthanasia is immoral and should never be legalized.
Would both of you enjoy sitting in a hospital bed suffering in 24 hour anguish with no hope for recovery or cure until your God decided it was time for you to go? Science and medications these days keep people alive much longer than intended. It is one thing if the drugs are working and curing. It's another if the drugs are simply prolonging the painful inevitable.
I agree it could be a slippery slope, but so far there are guidelines in place. It has worked OK here in Oregon for a while now. There is no way that I would EVER compare a legitimate terminally ill euthanasia case to the suicide of an able bodied 30 year old that is simply facing bankruptcy ( or some other compromising dilemma). Two entirely different situations.
Set your Christian fundamentalism to the side for just a moment and imagine yourself in their position. It is hard to do, I know. But just try!
Defacto euthanasia is an easily forseeable result of the inevitable rationing of health care under Obamacare.
And if the Repulicans get what they want this week and basically defund Medicaid, won't they be doing it by denying medical care to the elderly who have no assets left?
I am just wondering if any of you would support legalizing euthanazia for terminally ill patients?
Already the states of Washington, Montana, and Oregon and different countries such as the Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg have legalized euthanasia.
Yes. It should be a person's own decision to end their life if they are terminally ill.
And if the Repulicans get what they want this week and basically defund Medicaid, won't they be doing it by denying medical care to the elderly who have no assets left?
As I said in another post, there WILL be rationing in the future, particularly in health care for the elderly.
The Dems want bureacrats to make the hard choices.
The Republicans will leave the hard choices up to each individual.
Unlimited care without restraint is not sustainable. The debate is really about who will make the choices.
There is something familiar with this idea...first lets put down the terminally ill, then the mentally ill, then the chronically ill, then lets put down useless eaters. then the homeless, then say those who are radical thinking thought criminals then we could start exterminating anti-Gov't, anti-NWO, anti-Global Gov't 1st Amendment "terrorists".... then non-white "impure" races. HEY we could revive the "final solution' kicked up notches unknown..yea thats the ticket!
Good heavens those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.....
There is something familiar with this idea...first lets put down the terminally ill, then the mentally ill, then the chronically ill, then lets put down useless eaters. then the homeless, then say those who are radical thinking thought criminals then we could start exterminating anti-Gov't, anti-NWO, anti-Global Gov't 1st Amendment "terrorists".... then non-white "impure" races. HEY we could revive the "final solution' kicked up notches unknown..yea thats the ticket!
Good heavens those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.....
This is a fantastic example of a statement that simply reveals that the poster has neither read this thread, nor bothered to research the topic at hand.
Yet, we get an opinion based on one word in the headline: Euthanasia. That CLEARLY must mean that people are looking to implement a broad-spectrum Endlösung.
This is a fantastic example of a statement that simply reveals that the poster has neither read this thread, nor bothered to research the topic at hand.
Yet, we get an opinion based on one word in the headline: Euthanasia. That CLEARLY must mean that people are looking to implement a broad-spectrum Endlösung.
Yes we all know government never abuses it's power or creeps in it's mission and those gas chambers really were showers...
You're right, we can't euthanize a patient but we can legally withdraw care and allow a patient do die on their own. That's not killing them??? Sorry but that's the same thing as far as I'm concerned. We do this all the time. A patient is basically asking for us to kill them when they demand they don't want any antibiotics, or life saving measures and just want pain medication to die peacefully. I don't see how that is any different than a terminal patient asking us to provide comfort care measures and die peacefully and painlessly. If some of you had diseases like ALS, you absolutely would desire euthanasia so you wouldn't have to suffocate and die of respiratory distress, a most painful way to die.
Yes we all know government never abuses it's power or creeps in it's mission and those gas chambers really were showers...
Ah yes, congratulations: Reductio ad Hitlerum.
What in the world does that have to do with criticizing a post that is unrelated to the topic?
What in the world do gas chambers have to do with assisted suicide or a person's desire for a dignified and painless death?
Nor do government abuses. If they wanted to get rid of you, they already have more tools on their hands than they would need.
So, what's the problem? Can't read? Can't think? Paranoid? Bored? Troll?
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