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Old 04-07-2011, 06:40 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Just wondering how intolerance teaches, tolerance?
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:42 AM
 
Location: North America
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Just wondering how intolerance teaches, tolerance?

Maybe as an object lesson?
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:47 AM
 
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I am not "tolerant" of much anymore. Too much crap coming down the stream (i.e., lying, self promoting politicians living off our backs and doing nothing to improve our present dire state.) I am, however, "tolerant' of using the Constitution to govern what is left of our nation. Maybe then we can find ourselves again and salvage what is left of a battered and withering once-great country.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: North America
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I am not "tolerant" of much anymore. Too much crap coming down the stream. I am, however, "tolerant' of using the Constitution to govern what is left of our nation. Maybe then we can find ourselves again and salvage what is left of a battered and withering once-great country.

Sorry, but the US is still a great country. We don't like what's going on, we have the power to change it through the voting booth.

I heard the same thing from the Bush Bashers a decade ago, and I hear it from the other side now from the NObamas. We are not headed towards socialism/communism./fascism. As long as we have the Constitution preserving our freedom, we will remain great.

I served in Viet Nam, and I though the USA was great then, and is still great now. 'nuff said.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:05 AM
 
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Sorry, but the US is still a great country. We don't like what's going on, we have the power to change it through the voting booth.

I heard the same thing from the Bush Bashers a decade ago, and I hear it from the other side now from the NObamas. We are not headed towards socialism/communism./fascism. As long as we have the Constitution preserving our freedom, we will remain great.

I served in Viet Nam, and I though the USA was great then, and is still great now. 'nuff said.
Agreed, our country is still the greatest in the world, by comparison. But must admit it has slipped into depths not heretofore known. And is our fault for "tolerating" what is not in the best interest for us as a society or nation. Maybe another topic. But do disagree, and is very obvious, there is an attempt to entrench us into socialism or worse, diabolical as it is, in order to make us "equal" to the rest of the world. I for one am not ready for that kind of "equality" and prefer to remain "exceptional". Appears to me remaining thus is not the agenda of those in power today. Destruction of what most of us know and love is their agenda. That includes doing away with an "outdated" Constitution. Ignoring this axiom is not to our advantage.

I, too, am a Vietnam vet.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Coffee Bean
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Just wondering how intolerance teaches, tolerance?
Great question BB. I ask myself the same thing every time I get on the P&C board.

My answer would be - it doesn't, but there sure are a lot of people out there who confuse the two (sometimes it seems like most of them are on this board).

And at the risk of getting seriously flamed, I'll even throw this out there - I see/hear it more from the deeply religious than any other group. Not specifying a particular religion - I think they're all equal-opportunity haters in the name of fill-in-the-blank God.

But second only to the religious zealots in the art of intolerance are the political zealots. A whole lotta (scary, cray-cray) intolerance there in the name of fill-in-the-blank party.

I choose to pray to the God of Snarkyism, and I only vote with the party of Sarcasmicans - to spread the gospel of stop-taking-yo-crazy-self-so-seriously, and repeat the party platform talking points of no-really-yo-crazy-a$$-sounds-stupid and you-kiss-yo-mama-with-that-haterade-filled-mouth??

I find that approach creates a more full-bodied, smooth finish to all the sour grapes on P&C.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:09 AM
 
Location: North America
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Agreed, our country is still the greatest in the world, by comparison. But must admit it has slipped into depths not heretofore known. And is our fault for "tolerating" what is not in the best interest for us as a society or nation. Maybe another topic. But do disagree, and is very obvious, there is an attempt to entrench us into socialism or worse, diabolical as it is, in order to make us "equal" to the rest of the world. I for one am not ready for that kind of "equality" and prefer to remain "exceptional". Appears to me remaining thus is not the agenda of those in power today. Destruction of what most of us know and love is their agenda. That includes doing away with an "outdated" Constitution. Ignoring this axiom is not to our advantage.

I, too, am a Vietnam vet.

I don't see us going down the path of destruction. We have the power, as a people to throw the bums out. If we sit at home and don't exercise our right to vote, then we deserve what we get.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: somewhere
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Great question BB. I ask myself the same thing every time I get on the P&C board.

My answer would be - it doesn't, but there sure are a lot of people out there who confuse the two (sometimes it seems like most of them are on this board).

And at the risk of getting seriously flamed, I'll even throw this out there - I see/hear it more from the deeply religious than any other group. Not specifying a particular religion - I think they're all equal-opportunity haters in the name of fill-in-the-blank God.

But second only to the religious zealots in the art of intolerance are the political zealots. A whole lotta (scary, cray-cray) intolerance there in the name of fill-in-the-blank party.

I choose to pray to the God of Snarkyism, and I only vote with the party of Sarcasmicans - to spread the gospel of stop-taking-yo-crazy-self-so-seriously, and repeat the party platform talking points of no-really-yo-crazy-a$$-sounds-stupid and you-kiss-yo-mama-with-that-haterade-filled-mouth??

I find that approach creates a more full-bodied, smooth finish to all the sour grapes on P&C.
No flaming from me, great post. The only difference is I still pray to the God I have always prayed to, because I do not think those that make their claims in the name of God really know God.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:20 AM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Sorry, but the US is still a great country. We don't like what's going on, we have the power to change it through the voting booth.
Did we not vote ourselves into the position we are in now? The problem is the new boss is the same or worse than the old boss.

None of these political figures seems to ever do what they campaign on so don't tell me we can vote for, and get, change.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:44 AM
 
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Did we not vote ourselves into the position we are in now? The problem is the new boss is the same or worse than the old boss.

None of these political figures seems to ever do what they campaign on so don't tell me we can vote for, and get, change.

Then we need to stop relying on the quick fix sound bites. Washington can't solve our problems, it never could. There is no quick fix to the worst recession in decades. Did anyone with intelligence really think that the recession and unemployment was going to magically >poof< disappear when a new guy got into the White House?

There is no quick fix to extricating ourselves from the Iraq/Afghanistan swamp we waded into in 2003. We need to stop policing the world and get ourselves collectively back on our feet. If we're this worried about the middle east oil producers, guess what, we need to cut our consumption down to lower our dependence on it. Nobody seems to want to do the hard stuff. We thump our chests and keep buying the Hemmies and Hummers, then whine when we can't afford gas. Well, boohoo, take the damned bus to work you bunch of wimps.

We can't spend our way into prosperity, never could. Politicians on both sides are pointing the finger and trying to make brownie points when they should look at the true waste in government spending and start cutting.

If you don't vote, you get what you deserve. In Miami, we recalled the Mayor, and put the rest of them on notice that same-old-same-old doesn't cut it anymore.

Life is tough, get used to it. Stop throwing up your hands and shout "we're doomed" when you don't like the policies of the guy in charge. We made it through worse times than this, by a long shot, and this country survived. Point-in-fact: the Civil War, the Depressions (yes there wer more thn one) World War 1 and 2...

Remember there's an entire Senate and House who's screwing things up, too. Both Reps and Dems are culpable.

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