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But first we need to drag 0bama, kicking and screaming, to a "path of no more deficit spending," and then we can discuss austerity measures, or reducing the size of the federal government.
Now he's using the term "investment" but it's still spending money we don't have.
Sorry folks, but Boehner is yanking your chain and I don't buy it for a nanosecond, as rhetoric is easy as breathing, action on the other hand is a totally different animal.
Take for instance the Tea Party folks, even those not co-opted by establishment GOP forces. These folks ran on a platform and rhetoric of fiscal responsibility and as we all know, the GOP won in a tsunami of a landslide. Now when it came down to actually legislating and actually doing real cutting and budget measures, things suddenly looked a little different, not unlike the Obama rhetoric that got him office ended up looking a little different than his actions. Nor was it any different than when Democrats slaughtered the GOP in the 2006 mid term rout.
Now I realize you partisan folks will sit here all day, every day and yell at each other, taste great.... less filling, but it is still just Miller beer you are all taking about at the end of the day.
So what has the Tea Party done to change the face of budgets and get America back on the right track to fiscal responsibility, well they went after the tiniest nonsensical BS that won't make one damn bit of difference in the grand scheme of things.
Lets face it, there are two main courses on our national plate that are going to have to be addressed at some point, Social Security and Military spending, problem is, the GOP in general isn't going to touch Social Security in a meaningful way, because it is the blue haired population that is the most consistent voting bloc in America. Who also happen to be the largest recipients of Social Security and the primary reason of the GOP rout of 2010, so the GOP isn't going to touch Social Security in a serious way because that is what put them in office.
So the next thing is bogus named "Defense" spending which is really offense spending, unless you consider preemptive doctrine of preventative war to be defensive in nature, which you would have to be mentally ill to even think this. We could cut one single program like the F-35 which will end up costing over a Trillion dollars and make a meaningful advance towards budget cutting, but that isn't ever going to happen. The GOP has always been enamored by gadgets that go boom and have incorporated the Neoconservative notion that we can change the world to fit our needs by military force alone.
The GOP is never going to address military spending in any meaningful way as the right wing in America is the most paranoid fearful group of people to ever grace this nation in its history. These people fear dangers of if and maybe two generations in the future while the house is burning down around them. They see everything as a threat and every shadow as a danger and the only way to deal with it is to have some other peoples kids bomb it, blow it up, or run it over.
The right wing isn't going to do a damn thing and talk about doing something "next time" rings as hollow as the magic log where the frog god lives in the enchanted forest. However, we already knew this, just as some of us knew all those promises by Obama about leaving the Middle East rang as hollow as this same magic log, just the same as some of us laughed at the 2006 Democratic Congress running on a platform of ending the war in Iraq.
Its just another cycle of broken promises by hollow cheap suits with no more courage than a gutless weepy Neoconservative think tank freshman attorney fresh out of the global geopolitical strategy course they found in a cracker jack box.
Be it right or left, all we are ever going to hear is "next time" we will do this, and "next time" things will be different, and if you believe this, I have an F-35 fighter program I'll sell you for less than what it cost to fund NPR for a month.
You obviously missed the FACT the only person with significant budget cuts was from the Tea Party. So all this jibberish about the Tea Party not doing anything is just another deceptive maneuver from the ones who grandstand and pander in order to deflect from their parties failed policies.
Funny how this post mentions the outrageous defense spending and blames the repubs ONLY, but not ONE mention about how Obama the Occupier and his minions of war mongers have done ZERO about our over reaching military. Nothing, Nada, Zip. Please enlighten me. Show me the plethora of dems who came up with the heroic defense cuts that will move us towards debt reduction. Just empty promises and false rhetoric.
So the call comes from Pelosi Jr who gives us the time worn lie, "we'll get them next year". Next year we really really mean it when we say we will cut. Watch the lemmings believe him too. Boehner had his chance and blew it. He's no different than the dems when it comes to spending OUR money like there's no tomorrow. No one with a D by their name came up with actual budget cuts. No one with an R by their name came up with significant budget cuts EXCEPT the ones associated with the Tea Party. Anyone who has followed the budget discussions knows this.
maybe if we ignore the Tea Party it will go away. maybe if we ignore the debt it will go away. yea that's how it works pffffttt
Us thinking folks understand that the very same accusation could be thrown right back in Democrats' face. Something like this....."If Democrats cared about small businesses they wouldn't have let Planned Parenthood funding cuts get in the way."
Using your rationale, it appears that Democrats have zero concern for Small Businesses.
Critical thinking does wonders sometimes.
Neither party gives half a **** about small businesses and regular people. They are of the 1% for the 1%. They are still drinking the "trickle down" kool aid.
Bush had his cronies too, every president and congress does, but 0bama dwarfs all of his predecessors, he is a "historic" president, yes indeed. 0bama shamelessly gives billions to his corporate cronies, and the libs do nothing but swoon.
Sorry folks, but Boehner is yanking your chain and I don't buy it for a nanosecond, as rhetoric is easy as breathing, action on the other hand is a totally different animal.
Take for instance the Tea Party folks, even those not co-opted by establishment GOP forces. These folks ran on a platform and rhetoric of fiscal responsibility and as we all know, the GOP won in a tsunami of a landslide. Now when it came down to actually legislating and actually doing real cutting and budget measures, things suddenly looked a little different, not unlike the Obama rhetoric that got him office ended up looking a little different than his actions. Nor was it any different than when Democrats slaughtered the GOP in the 2006 mid term rout.
Now I realize you partisan folks will sit here all day, every day and yell at each other, taste great.... less filling, but it is still just Miller beer you are all taking about at the end of the day.
So what has the Tea Party done to change the face of budgets and get America back on the right track to fiscal responsibility, well they went after the tiniest nonsensical BS that won't make one damn bit of difference in the grand scheme of things.
Lets face it, there are two main courses on our national plate that are going to have to be addressed at some point, Social Security and Military spending, problem is, the GOP in general isn't going to touch Social Security in a meaningful way, because it is the blue haired population that is the most consistent voting bloc in America. Who also happen to be the largest recipients of Social Security and the primary reason of the GOP rout of 2010, so the GOP isn't going to touch Social Security in a serious way because that is what put them in office.
So the next thing is bogus named "Defense" spending which is really offense spending, unless you consider preemptive doctrine of preventative war to be defensive in nature, which you would have to be mentally ill to even think this. We could cut one single program like the F-35 which will end up costing over a Trillion dollars and make a meaningful advance towards budget cutting, but that isn't ever going to happen. The GOP has always been enamored by gadgets that go boom and have incorporated the Neoconservative notion that we can change the world to fit our needs by military force alone.
The GOP is never going to address military spending in any meaningful way as the right wing in America is the most paranoid fearful group of people to ever grace this nation in its history. These people fear dangers of if and maybe two generations in the future while the house is burning down around them. They see everything as a threat and every shadow as a danger and the only way to deal with it is to have some other peoples kids bomb it, blow it up, or run it over.
The right wing isn't going to do a damn thing and talk about doing something "next time" rings as hollow as the magic log where the frog god lives in the enchanted forest. However, we already knew this, just as some of us knew all those promises by Obama about leaving the Middle East rang as hollow as this same magic log, just the same as some of us laughed at the 2006 Democratic Congress running on a platform of ending the war in Iraq.
Its just another cycle of broken promises by hollow cheap suits with no more courage than a gutless weepy Neoconservative think tank freshman attorney fresh out of the global geopolitical strategy course they found in a cracker jack box.
Be it right or left, all we are ever going to hear is "next time" we will do this, and "next time" things will be different, and if you believe this, I have an F-35 fighter program I'll sell you for less than what it cost to fund NPR for a month.
Im not terribly impressed with any of them nowadays. Both parties are on my last nerve.
What I hate the most is that they dont LISTEN TO US.
At least we elected good people into the congress last year, and they are able to push these republicans to listen to us. What other choice do we have, its an uphill battle.
I'll believe that the Republicans are serious about reducing the debt when they start taxing the super rich for their fair share of taxes. Reducing the debt is more than just cutting costs, we have to raise our incoming money. The Republicans put us in this position with ten years of unfunded war. Where were the war bond drives and the war taxes back then so we could have paid as we went along instead of borrowing for the war? After 9/11 we all would have willing dug a little deeper to help fund the war. But we weren't asked to sacrifice back then and that would have kept us out of debt in the first place. Now the Republican want to use the debt to slash social programs right and left that they've never liked in the first place. Doesn't that make you wonder if that wasn't their plan in the first place when they ran up the debt with unfunded war?
I'll believe that the Republicans are serious about reducing the debt when they start taxing the super rich for their fair share of taxes. Reducing the debt is more than just cutting costs, we have to raise our incoming money. The Republicans put us in this position with ten years of unfunded war. Where were the war bond drives and the war taxes back then so we could have paid as we went along instead of borrowing for the war? After 9/11 we all would have willing dug a little deeper to help fund the war. But we weren't asked to sacrifice back then and that would have kept us out of debt in the first place. Now the Republican want to use the debt to slash social programs right and left that they've never liked in the first place. doesn't that make you wonder if that wasn't their plan in the first place when they ran up the debt with unfunded war?
unfunded liabilities and entitlements cost more than the wars each year. Are you guys serious about the debt or not? I don't think you are.
But first we need to drag 0bama, kicking and screaming, to a "path of no more deficit spending," and then we can discuss austerity measures, or reducing the size of the federal government.
Wrong. First, we need to drag Boehner to a "path of no more deficit spending." Even after the $38.5 billion compromise Boehner made, he has still added $81.5 billion more the to the deficit this fiscal year. Remember that $120 billion in new spending Boehner gave the Democrats in December 2010 for their vote on extending the 2001 tax cuts? This continuing resolution made for good theater, but do not for a second believe Boehner has any intention of actually reducing the budget.
So what has the Tea Party done to change the face of budgets and get America back on the right track to fiscal responsibility, well they went after the tiniest nonsensical BS that won't make one damn bit of difference in the grand scheme of things.
You do realize that these tiny things were being done to the democrat budget, or rather their CR. This was not the republican budget.
I do share a lot of your pessimism, because the republican party is still largely the same democrat-lite party that it has been for over a decade. We have a flaming liberal named Reid who controls the senate, and our Marxist-lite president. I'm not confident we will see much more then a stop gap in spending, but its better then crying in your hanky.
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Originally Posted by TnHilltopper
The GOP is never going to address military spending in any meaningful way as the right wing in America is the most paranoid fearful group of people to ever grace this nation in its history. These people fear dangers of if and maybe two generations in the future while the house is burning down around them. They see everything as a threat and every shadow as a danger and the only way to deal with it is to have some other peoples kids bomb it, blow it up, or run it over.
You do see a difference between the Bush years where we were upset with $200 and $300 billion in annual deficits, while fighting terrorism in two wars, and 0bama's $1.3 trillion annual deficits as far as the eye can see, and a third unnecessary war, don't you? You act as if these facts are phantoms and delusions of people's wild imaginations.
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Originally Posted by TnHilltopper
Its just another cycle of broken promises by hollow cheap suits with no more courage than a gutless weepy Neoconservative think tank freshman attorney fresh out of the global geopolitical strategy course they found in a cracker jack box.
Be it right or left, all we are ever going to hear is "next time" we will do this, and "next time" things will be different, and if you believe this, I have an F-35 fighter program I'll sell you for less than what it cost to fund NPR for a month.
So we just go home and wait to be told what to do by the government? Or do we stand up together and fight for what we believe in and do our best to force our elected representatives to make the changes that we need? One time, a people stood up to the crown of England, and now we have people that will not even stand up to elected politicians. What do you propose to do, or should i get you a hanky?
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