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Anyone want to place bets on how long before the Eiffel Tower gets bombed? And we can also place bets on how quickly the loony left rushes to the defense of the islamo-jihadists for doing so. After all, France is offending them, what else are they supposed to do??
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You attacked me a few sentences above for claiming you were dealing with this issue a long time, then turn around and pretend that <I> just began dealing with the muslim one in Europe. Pot meet kettle....
Just what are you talking about?
You stated: What I do find hilarious is liberals first attacking Bush for not finding WMD in iraq, then scoffing at his reasoning for going there about helping iraqis build a better country, then the liberals claiming we cannot bring democracy to them and that they have their own customs, and then finally demanding we do EXACTLY that in Libya.
I must've missed it, just where have liberals been demanding we do this in Libya?
Not sure this is being done in the pursuit of liberty...
Why blame our leaders? You should blame our Constitution, because this kind of ban would be legally problematic in this country. France doesn't have First Amendment...
Well we're not allowed to walk around naked so yes, I think clothing standards can be enforced here as well.
What's hilarious is that the politically correct always like to point out Turkey as the example of an Islamic state that is tolerant and fairly open -- yet everyone knows that Ataturk was smart and put some controls on Islam including a law forbidding the burkas and veils.
The only reason Turkey has a somewhat reasonable form of Islam is all due to Ataturk understanding it's dangerous nature.
What's hilarious is that the politically correct always like to point out Turkey as the example of an Islamic state that is tolerant and fairly open -- yet everyone knows that Ataturk was smart and put some controls on Islam including a law forbidding the burkas and veils.
The only reason Turkey has a somewhat reasonable form of Islam is all due to Ataturk understanding it's dangerous nature.
Turkey today is nowhere near a democracy; it has terrible human rights abuses, used chemical weapons on the kurds last year, is illegally occupying Cyprus, its gov't officials are limiting the freedom of the press, the list goes on and on.
I think you will find that the French view is that they are showing deference to a a concept of male superiority that has no place in their secular society.
Covering one's "assets" has nothing to do with male superiority. It has everything to do with the concept of modesty, which perhaps some of the women in France would do well to emulate.
Covering one's "assets" has nothing to do with male superiority. It has everything to do with the concept of modesty, which perhaps some of the women in France would do well to emulate.
If it were "everything to do with the concept of modesty," muslim women in Islamic countries would have had a choice whether to cover their heads/faces/bodies/ or not. Since it's obviously not a case, of course it's all about male superiority, which is clearly stated in Koran.
The burka is a symbol. In places where it is mandated the complete degredation of women is also legally enshrined into law. Muslim nations have some of the most sexist laws imaginable. In many Muslim countries a woman's testimony is literally only valued at half that of a man's in court. In many Muslim nations women are simply not allowed their full humanity.
Bravo to the French for sending a message that if Muslims immigrate to western nations the sexism that they may bring with them will be not be tolerated.
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