Wear a Niqab Get Arrested in France. (KKK, amendment, religion)
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Not sure this is being done in the pursuit of liberty...
Why blame our leaders? You should blame our Constitution, because this kind of ban would be legally problematic in this country. France doesn't have First Amendment...
I would think a suitable exception would be ANY occasion that would involve government interaction... courts, licensing, customs... full body appearance above the shoulders.
It's not like I have to allow anyone to wear that garb in my home.
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair
The law makes no distinction between being able to see the wearer's face or not-just that the face is totally covered.
Yes it does. Do you really think you thought of something that the French lawmakers overlooked? Maybe you skype them just so you can see them go "DOH!" Come on dude.
The goal of a secular democracy where religion cannot trump an open society is the goal in France. I think it's a good idea. We are all the same. If we have religious preferences those do not supercede the society. Here in the US we have all sorts of freedoms however we can readily see the goal of the christian right. They want to take away everyone's rights who is not like them. That is what France and other countries seek to avoid.
As an atheist, I applaud the way France has insisted on keeping public society secular.
Safety is an issue and could be a legitimate basis for such a ban in certain times and places.
A general ban, or one based on "culture" is not constitutionally permissible. It's prior restraint. We don't do that here in the US of A.
Boarding an airliner, for instance?
Entering a courtroom or other secured area?
Any situation that requires you show ID, and your face so someone can connect one with the other?
But one is asked for identification all the time. That would be too hard to enforce. Nowadays, whenever you use your credit card to make a purchase you get asked for your ID. Should you only have to take remove it if you intend to make a purchase? Sure, maybe it's for different security reasons but I believe it is the same underlying policy.
Love how all of he worshippers of a socialistic society are suddenly not so into "French Fries" so much. LOL.
Hahaha! France and Europe in general have never been the standard bearer of my view of a perfect society. That part of the world in my experience has issues with race that imo are worse than ours, has issues with organized religion too and both of those things that pertain quite personally to me. So no, you FAIL.
Apparently now a bunch of NeoCons in the US are singing France's praises and it sounds like fingernails screeching across a chalkboard.
Love how the hypocrites on both sides are calling out the hypocrites on the other side for being hypocrites.
Can you make your point a little more clear...I think the hypocrisy is much more one sided. Go back and read the posts. This kind of stuff makes the liberal mind heat up, smoke, sputter and then shut down.
The law makes no distinction between being able to see the wearer's face or not-just that the face is totally covered.
Yes it does, it clearly states that veils that block the view of the wearer's face are illegal. The veil you posted doesn't block the view of the woman's face and you know it.
You're grasping as straws here, the law is simple and it prevents people from trying to get a driver's license or something like that wearing a veil that completely blocks the view of the person's face.
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