Americans Favor Surveillance Cameras (Congress, enemy, generations, regular)

[ElkHunter]

A lot of people seem to be against camera's. But do you realize that you are already on camera hundreds of times a day.

7/11
Maverick
Penny's
Sears
Home Depot
K-Mart
Wal-Mart
Mall Pathways
Every store in the mall
Taco Bell
Local filling station
Liquor stores


They talk about adding a few cameras to high crime areas and everybody flips out.

What is a person doing, that they don't want anybody to see it?

[famenity]

Originally Posted by jgussler

A lot of people seem to be against camera's. But do you realize that you are already on camera hundreds of times a day.

7/11
Maverick
Penny's
Sears
Home Depot
K-Mart
Wal-Mart
Mall Pathways
Every store in the mall
Taco Bell
Local filling station
Liquor stores


They talk about adding a few cameras to high crime areas and everybody flips out.

What is a person doing, that they don't want anybody to see it?

Are these cameras nationally linked with software to identify each person, who has access to these files, need I go on?

[PPG]

Originally Posted by jgussler

A lot of people seem to be against camera's. But do you realize that you are already on camera hundreds of times a day.

7/11
Maverick
Penny's
Sears
Home Depot
K-Mart
Wal-Mart
Mall Pathways
Every store in the mall
Taco Bell
Local filling station
Liquor stores


They talk about adding a few cameras to high crime areas and everybody flips out.

What is a person doing, that they don't want anybody to see it?

Private things.

BTW, you are severely missing the point. No one is against cameras at 7-11 or high crime areas, but why does the guy walking his dog around his house need to be watched? Why do couples making out on a romantic walk thru the park need to be watched?

The point is there is so much room for abuse.
Who exactly will be watching?
Can you prove it is a detterent to crime?
Why are they watching YOU?
Are cameras going to stop terrorism?
Are the police never corrupt?
Why are they listening to YOUR phone calls? If you are so innocent why are they listening?
Who is in charge of these cameras? Do you care?
If they ever ban smoking would they use these cameras to ID offenders?
Are they really helping YOU?

This isn't about a couple cameras. This is about more. Are you that far behind? It's 2007, we are in the future. Do you actually think it's going to stop with cameras?

[Anarchy]

Trust me you dont want cameras everywhere like here in the UK which is now a "surveillance society", its like been followed by a stalker, lack of freedom, its a good way to head towards a police state.

We have over 4 million of these things and they come in diffrent styles some with loud speakers to tell people to pick up litter, no drinking etc. These camaras are even used in certain public toilets can you believe, but do the cameras cut crime overall, no crime is still on the up in the UK in every catagory.

We are all a part of big brother, we are all being watched

We live in a democracy, how about spending more money on getting more police.

If the US is going the same way check this website of what you can look forward too Police State U.K.

[Jason_Els]

Originally Posted by Anarchy

Trust me you dont want cameras everywhere like here in the UK which is now a "surveillance society", its like been followed by a stalker, lack of freedom, its a good way to head towards a police state.

We have over 4 million of these things and they come in diffrent styles some with loud speakers to tell people to pick up litter, no drinking etc. These camaras are even used in certain public toilets can you believe, but do the cameras cut crime overall, no crime is still on the up in the UK in every catagory.

We are all a part of big brother, we are all being watched

We live in a democracy, how about spending more money on getting more police.

If the US is going the same way check this website of what you can look forward too Police State U.K.

I'm astounded by the saturation of the UK by these things. I'm very curious as to why the people of the UK appear (at least to me) to be so complacent about it. Could you explain this to me? That video of those loudspeaker cameras is just nightmarish. I half expected martial music with subliminal messages to be interspersed with the admonitions. Do any of the national parties oppose this?

[Nirvana-Guy]

Originally Posted by LauraC

Interesting poll results were just released showing that Americans favor the increased use of street surveillance cameras and it wasn't even close. 71% favor it and only 25% oppose it. Even more interesting is that the majority support for surveillance cameras crosses political, ideological and population groups although to different degrees.

ABC News: Surveillance Cameras Win Broad Support

The poll was conducted by the Washington Post and ABC News.

Now, let me ask you something - Does this not prove that the issue of national security/crime is a top issue in the 2008 Presidential election and do these poll results also reflect badly on the CNN/YouTube debate where there were no national security questions put forth to the candidates?

And again, this has nothing to do with the Democrat candidates because they didn't even get the opportunity to address the issue. But now, shouldn't we expect every reporter (TV, radio, internet, print) to ask them to make up for the CNN/YouTube debate deficiency since it is obviously an issue in the minds of many Americans?

I am a Conservative and I STRONGLY OPPOSE the government spying on us all. England has a camera in every street corner and they are THE most violent industrialized country in the world. If it wasn't enough that we have YouTube and people posting stuff everywhere 24/7, last thing we need is a camera watching you the minute we walk out of our homes.

NO CAMERAS!! LET'S FIGHT SOME SOME PRIVACY OUTSIDE OUR HOMES!!!

[Rita Mordio]

I agree with surveillance cameras. I have nothing to hide from. I don't speed (too much), I don't run red lights. In stores, I'm not a clepto. I'm not a robber.

If somebody ELSE does those things, having a camera with THEIR face plastered on it allows for proper JUSTICE.

[PPG]

Originally Posted by Kuharai

I agree with surveillance cameras. I have nothing to hide from. I don't speed (too much), I don't run red lights. In stores, I'm not a clepto. I'm not a robber.

If somebody ELSE does those things, having a camera with THEIR face plastered on it allows for proper JUSTICE.

Do you agree that you are missing the point. Maybe try reading the posts before adding your opinion.

Also, I agree with a previous poster about youtube. I think the networks will definitley benefit from these cameras. Americans would rather see a girl fight in the street or Paris Hilton bending over instead of real news like the government buying illegal drugs with their tax money.

[DontH8Me]

When you are outside of your house, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. Anyone can and will see you and what you are doing, so what difference does it make if that person is someone in front of a monitor in another part of town? If he were on the street and looking your way, would you hand him a blindfold or ask him to look the other way?

As long as those cameras are not set up in my home and/or backyard, I have no concerns. I have tried to think of any reason why I would not want to be 'observed' and can't think of a one.

[Rita Mordio]

Originally Posted by PPG

Do you agree that you are missing the point. Maybe try reading the posts before adding your opinion.

Also, I agree with a previous poster about youtube. I think the networks will definitley benefit from these cameras. Americans would rather see a girl fight in the street or Paris Hilton bending over instead of real news like the government buying illegal drugs with their tax money.

Actually, I disagree about missing the point. I think that the only place you can really claim to have any sort of "privacy" is your OWN home. Even then, if you are involved with social services or live with any other person, you have almost no privacy.

There really is no such place where the government cannot supercede you. The roads are owned by the city. The sidewalks are owned by the city. So technically, the government can watch you on THEIR property...