Seattle Public Health: Gay Lifestyle Is Unhealthy. (racism, 18 year old, financial)

[hotair2]

Originally Posted by Yooperkat

I never said recruit. I said that most of the posts I see on CD, make it sound like it's normal. I think that for once people should hear what some of the risks are.

And then what? Choose not to be gay. I think that is the problem. I don't think that it is a choice, but you obviously do.

[hammertime33]

Originally Posted by Yooperkat

That is, finally, the most honest account given by a gay person, that I've ever heard on City Data.

Naturally, much of it, I disagree with. Which is my right to do.

I know, hammertime33, that you are making an appeal. OK, and I can see it's a serious subject for you.


Now, when I see gays trying to "promote" homosexuality I get dissatisfied with the courtesy that gays don't give to heterosexuals.

Gays act like they are the only victims. I'm here to tell you. Many folks don't want their kids to be influenced by gays who glorify, through media or otherwise, anal sex between men.


How do you sit down with your son and explain that, "Son, part of sex is to either be intimate with a girl, or to grab your ankles so that another boy can give you anal warts"?


As far as causes of substance abuse. Society doesn't force drugs and alcohol down the throats of gay people. Gay people take drugs and abuse alcohol without being forced.

I don't understand where you're coming from on this "promoting" aspect. I don't understand what that means. Homosexuality was and has never been promoted to me, nor have I ever met anyone who promotes it.

You mentioned earlier a cousin of yours who was "talked into" being gay. You honestly believe that? Really?

You could have talked to me as much as you want about heterosexuality, but it wouldn't have had changed that fact that I have natural sexual and emotional attraction to other men. Likewise, you could have talked to my two brothers as much as you want about homosexuality, but it wouldn't have changed they fact that they are heterosexual. Sexuality is an innate characteristic. It's not something one can be talked into or out of.

And yes, you and the majority of our society doesn't force open the mouths of gay people and pour booze down their throats. However, when a society mistreats a segment of its population, it's gonna cause problems in that segment. To then attribute those problems or symptoms as the natural state or default "lifestyle" of that segment and then prescribe more mistreatment as the way to "fix" it is ridiculously absurd.

[InsaneTraveler]

Any sex that does not involve condom use is unhealthy. Gay men are more sexually liberated than the population at large, so it just makes condom use more important. It is not the promiscuity of gay culture that is a problem, but that too many men think "Just this one time I can have sex without a condom". Combating drug abuse within the gay community couldn't hurt either.

People also need to realize that HPV is not a life or death issue. About 1 out of 5 of you will get in your life. The vast majority of you will not get cancer from it. I was tested for it a year ago and came back clean as a whistle, but I make sure every one of my anonymous sexual encounters have a healthy layer of latex between me and whoever I am having fun with.

[hammertime33]

Originally Posted by InsaneTraveler

Any sex that does not involve condom use is unhealthy. Gay men are more sexually liberated than the population at large, so it just makes condom use more important. It is not the promiscuity of gay culture that is a problem, but that too many men think "Just this one time I can have sex without a condom". Combating drug abuse within the gay community couldn't hurt either.

People also need to realize that HPV is not a life or death issue. About 1 out of 5 of you will get in your life. The vast majority of you will not get cancer from it. I was tested for it a year ago and came back clean as a whistle, but I make sure every one of my anonymous sexual encounters have a healthy layer of latex between me and whoever I am having fun with.

1 in 5? More like 9 in 10 people will have HPV in their life (are you perhaps confusing HPV with HSV. 1 in 5 is about the prevalence of HSV II - commonly referred to as genital herpes)

[InsaneTraveler]

Originally Posted by hammertime33

1 in 5? More like 9 in 10 people will have HPV in their life.

True true. Is your stat for warts in general, or just the ones effecting sex organ areas? I thought the 1 in 5 (some sources say 4) stat was for genital warts exclusively. Not necessarily the warts you get on your hands or feet.

[Yooperkat]

Originally Posted by hammertime33

I don't understand where you're coming from on this "promoting" aspect. I don't understand what that means. Homosexuality was and has never been promoted to me, nor have I ever met anyone who promotes it.

You mentioned earlier a cousin of yours who was "talked into" being gay. You honestly believe that? Really?

You could have talked to me as much as you want about heterosexuality, but it wouldn't have had changed that fact that I have natural sexual and emotional attraction to other men. Likewise, you could have talked to my two brothers as much as you want about homosexuality, but it wouldn't have changed they fact that they are heterosexual. Sexuality is an innate characteristic. It's not something one can be talked into or out of.

And yes, you and the majority of our society doesn't force open the mouths of gay people and pour booze down their throats. However, when a society mistreats a segment of its population, it's gonna cause problems in that segment. To then attribute those problems or symptoms as the natural state or default "lifestyle" of that segment and then prescribe more mistreatment as the way to "fix" it is ridiculously absurd.

I think you're on the level hammertime33. But, I totally disagree with your "choice".

I don't think that kindergartners should be taught in our public schools that Timmy likes Billy sexually.

I'll never stop homosexuality. I disagree that it should be pranced around in the mainstream media and in advertising as something as natural as breathing.

Gays do have an agenda. And there is a lifestyle of fun and wild abandon promoted. Booze and drugs. That's what happended to my cousin. Join up and have fun. He died at 30 of AIDS.


Stop the gay pride parades. Stop trying to make being gay a rally cry. Stop trying to influence kids -- by suggesting that gay is good.

Most people don't want to be gay. And they don't want their kids to be gay either.


So I don't adhere to Democratic Party political correctness.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

So what's your point? People have the right to be unhealthy.

Besides, this is all a bunch of bull anyway.

Excellent point. 25% of the people smoke cigarettes and seem to think it's just fine with them.

[hammertime33]

Originally Posted by InsaneTraveler

True true. Is your stat for warts in general, or just the ones effecting sex organ areas? I thought the 1 in 5 (some sources say 4) stat was for genital warts exclusively. Not necessarily the warts you get on your hands or feet.

That's a very hard question to answer. There are more than 100 types of HPV that can potentially infect people and give them warts. Over 30 have been known to form warts on human genitals. However, only two types - 6 and 11 - account for about 90% of genital warts.

It's hard to gauge rates of how many have active genital HPV infections. Most people with active HPV infections don't ever show symptoms. They don't form warts, so they never seek treatment. Only something like 1-4% of HPV infections produce visible symptoms. Also, unlike herpes, your body can eradicate most HPV infections. Most healthy immune systems can eliminate an HPV infection in about a year.

It's a very hard thing to gauge. I've read various studies that estimate anywhere between 25-50% of sexually active adults could have active genital HPV infections, with younger segments having higher rates of active infection.

[mhouse2001]

Originally Posted by Yooperkat

You're trying to tell Americans that homosexuals are just as healthy as anyone else. The usual bombardment of gays trying to say that being gay is wonderful and that there are no health risks when there are great risks .... including death as a result of your behavior.

(My main comment regards the bolded portion above, the rest is general to the thread)

I don't know of one single gay person in my entire life who ever held the opinion that "being gay is wonderful". Not one. The gay man who is happy is simply happy to be himself. I'd bet you think they should be unhappy because they are gay and resent that they might feel otherwise, judging from your posts.

There is no reason to limit the unhealthiness argument to gay sex. Human interactions of every type possess some type of risk including as we all know, sex. And it just silly to make the numerical occurrence of illness a measure of the 'goodness' of the sexual activity. It sounds like some people just can't erase sexual taboos. Yes, here I'm going to say it, there's nothing wrong with sexuality provided it's between two humans who agree to participate in it. Nobody knows me here, but I put 99.9% of sex in the "Oh my, really?!" category. So, the best attitude is one of non-judgment because it doesn't make any sense to feel otherwise.

Sex, just like riding an escalator, or walking down the street, or swimming offshore from Fukushima, or even smiling at strangers--everything comes with risks and dangers. Using the incidence of illness to gauge whether an activity is morally correct or not is rather silly. If that's the yardstick, than shaking hands is pure evil!

[EdwardA]

There is a whole world I didn't even know existed until I clicked on this thread. Viruses causing anal cancer. How disgusting. All of these risks and gays are still taking careless risks with their lives and demanding others understand and tolerate.