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With the advent of the realities of government revenues the use of class warfare have come home to roost in the Democrats own back yard.
There has been a lot of finger pointing, on both sides of the political spectrum. The left says that it's the fault of the right and the right says it is the left. No matter how it started, it did and we are all feeling the effects. Who knows who is pulling the strings, behind the scenes. Wither this is just a staged event or a set of orchestrated steps to take us to some predestined position, is anyone's guess. We can speculate all we want about who and why, but we can't deny that this is a big crap sandwich and we all are going to have to take a bite, before it is over.
Trouble is, that we are all in a mess. The lack of employment is beginning to effect more than just those that are unemployed. It's reducing the revenues of the government, and just like a human body that finds itself with reduced subsistence, it's trying to eat itself. That's dangerous, when you're talking about the government. You never know what is going on behind the scenes, when politics are concerned.
As far as the public employee unions, they are the first on the chopping block, since there is a gulf of understanding between union and non-union people, will be exploited in the same way that the class warfare tactics of the far left exploits the financial gulf. It's the haves VS: the have nots, all over again.
The far right is going to use the economic downturn to their advantage, just as the dems have used class warfare to turn people of different incomes against each other.
The main problem is that people who lead others to concentrate on what they don't have, instead of working on bettering themselves. They set up a bad presidence, that can easily be turned back against them. The world is full of different persons. Each person has to learn to appreciate what they have and learn that the world owes them nothing. They control their own destiny and those that give them something can easily take that same thing away.
The government has given the unions much that no other member of society has. They have had special treatment, that the public is paying for and the public is itself diminished. This doesn't set well, as they see the Teachers Unions protests against cuts in pay and the powers, that the private sector has never enjoyed. All the public sees is what the unions are doing. They see how the Dems have left the political field, instead of fighting for what they believe in. I've never heard of any instance of Republicans running and hiding, when they had to eat legislation that they didn't like.
They have ran from their duties and the unions are using the old tired Charade of championing the working man, to cover for their attempts to hang on to power.These powers are fueled by the taxes from working men and women, that see no benefit to themselves. The Unions claim indignities, while they show just how undignified they truly are. They close down schools, use the kids they are supposed to be teaching as pawns, and disrupt the lives of those with jobs, since the parents must take off their work to take care of those children who should be in school.
The winds of change are blowing, not only across America, but across the world. I think the world of social policies will more and more appear on the chopping block. If the left doesn't start seeing the writing on the wall and learn to choose their battles better they will step on landmine, after landmines, until they loose the one war they can not afford to loose. The war of public opinion.
Demonbane !!! ... Good One !
Indeed ... You have provided a most interesting viewpoint regarding this entire unfortunate matter !
I remember a time when a select few of the Industrial Workers Unions here in the States actually earned the weekly union dues that every worker had to have taken out of their paychecks by actually helping the workers in many ways.
Improving working conditions, grievence procedures, hourly raises once a year, good collective bargaining, and improved health care just to name a few ... Blimey mates even the Companies & the Unions appeared to get on well together and the plants operated at or near full employment levels for many, many years during the mid -sixties through the late 1970's.
It truly appears that the so called public employee unions of the 2000's have far exceeded all logical and or rational expectations regarding representation of workers. Yes mates it has acheived an excessively ridiculous level and it is seemingly a greater burden on the rest of the tax paying squires to foot the bill any longer.
Yes mates ... Union representation is a bloody good thing and when functioning within reasonable guidelines lots of great folks receive some excellent benefits !
And yet ... It never seems to fail mates, there are always some bloody muppet officials involved that will without a doubt muck it all up for everyone involved !!!
How pitiful it is when the so called union leadership is so bonkers that they know not when "Enough Is Enough !!! And throw common sense under the bus when it comes to employee benefits !
The death of American trade unions has been predicted on a number of occasions during the 19th and 20th century but it always has away of rising from the ashes of previous incarnations, so I wouldn't be putting on the party hats any time too soon.
Not exactly there has been a steady decline in union membership over the last 40 years. It is about 1/2 what it was in the late 1960's.
The concept of employees organizing for better working conditions, fighting discrimination, and negotiating in the form of collective bargaining, are things that wont be given up easily.
It won't be given up at all. The corporatists are going to push everyone too hard eventually, and the torches and pitchforks are going to come back out. Right now, Americans are complacent...unfortunately. That complacency won't lie dormant forever. That the tipping point didn't come 30 years ago with the ascendancy of Reagan shows how frickin' pathetic Americans are.
The death of American trade unions has been predicted on a number of occasions during the 19th and 20th century but it always has away of rising from the ashes of previous incarnations, so I wouldn't be putting on the party hats any time too soon.
I don't celebrate destruction of any kind. I also don't praise those that think they deserve what they don't take risks in. Employers take all the risks of creating and running a company. The only thing the Unions risk is their job, and have nothing invested in the bussiness at all..
Destroying the Unions is a neccessary first step toward making America a Third World Labor Pool
There was a time when there was a reason for the unions. That time has passed. Now-a-days Unions have grown into the same conglomerates they were supposed to control. Now the corporation gets their, the unions get theirs and the tax payer pays the bills. The unions aren't the standard bearers they used to be, and breaking them won't cause America to become a 3rd world anything. The taxes we pay to pay their salaries will most definitely make the rest of us live like we are in the third world.
There was a time when there was a reason for the unions. That time has passed. Now-a-days Unions have grown into the same conglomerates they were supposed to control. Now the corporation gets their, the unions get theirs and the tax payer pays the bills. The unions aren't the standard bearers they used to be, and breaking them won't cause America to become a 3rd world anything. The taxes we pay to pay their salaries will most definitely make the rest of us live like we are in the third world.
Thank you Mr Koch, the robber barons have looted the economy, wages have been falling for a decade, and families where dad used to be the sole support now have to work three and four jobs to afford chinese crap at WALMART. Heaven forbid you should have to pay your share to live in this country
The union sheeple are ridiculous. About 60-70% of the US is NOT unionized and NONE of these problems you guys speak of are happening there. Actually it is quite the opposite. The companies that are NOT unionized are doing better and so are most of their employees. Why aren't these companies who are NOT unionized enslaving their people and hiring their children like you guys like to say will happen if there are no unions. Could it be because there are Federal labor laws that make unions obsolete now?
It won't be given up at all. The corporatists are going to push everyone too hard eventually, and the torches and pitchforks are going to come back out. Right now, Americans are complacent...unfortunately. That complacency won't lie dormant forever. That the tipping point didn't come 30 years ago with the ascendancy of Reagan shows how frickin' pathetic Americans are.
Still though, that point isn't that far off.
uhm
unions are corporations
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Good One !
