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View Poll Results: Who's worse......the KKK or the Black Panthers
KKK 126 45.32%
Black Panthers 49 17.63%
Neither 5 1.80%
Both are equally bad. 98 35.25%
Voters: 278. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-28-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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He's buddies with Russ Pearce, leader of the State Senate and author of most of the wing nut legislation that hits Frau Bluchers desk. He also brings his National Socialist Patriot Militia down here to """Protect"""the Border or long enough to have their pictures taken, whichever comes first.
They're uninterested in truth. They're as malevolent/ treacherous as Alton Maddox, as irresponsible as Rodney King, and as unfit for office as black panthers, yet they hide behind cloaks of respectability posing as Christians. The courts and the efficacy of good governance is being assaulted by yahoo extremists of both sides. Numerous wars have been declared on American sovereignty using the guise of PAC's, corporations, and faux media generating news by think tank. Disinformation has been more abundant than information.

I'm reminded of concerns George Washington had over the 2 party system. I'm also reminded why dueling was prohibited. We're not having a national dialog anymore. We're overrun by fractious groups engaged in power grabs for self servitude. Even if it means declaring war on all other groups, ironically being protected as 'free speech'. They're systematically destroying America from within, it's intentional since at very least 60's era, and what they mean to replace our constitution with will default to corporate feudalism servicing new world order. It might have already happened and we just can't see it because it's too big.
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Ok, so what was the Ku Klux Klan's goal? Why were white republicans killed in the South?
1. Defined by their own consistent words and deeds= Absolute dominion over all.
2. White republicans (and black R's too, don't forget that part) of the south were attempting to stay faithful to what? What is it they meant to defend and protect (even if you disagree with how they went about it)? Go find that answer and post it here yourself. Why did reconstruction policies fail? Hindsight being 20/20 all parties concerned, even the north, had grave injustice heaped upon itself and bad situations were exploited unmercifully by opportunists. Someday a list of all injustices inflicted upon all sides should be made. I would be more than happy to participate in that highly productive discussion.

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As long as they keep to themselves and don't harm others, I don't give a rat's patootie about either one.

There are far worse people in the world than "racists", whatever the of their skin.
"ists" are incapable of keeping to themselves and refraining from harming others. For them it's a zero sum game where if I have rights, somehow their rights are 'stolen'. ageISTs, racISTs, sexISTs, K streetISTs et al. Similarly with the do as I say but not as I do social conservatives; if they would satisfy themselves with controlling themselves without a posse of religious validation legislators, there wouldn't be the need to complain about any 'ist' at all. They'd be as content with their life choices as Amish, correct?
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I was going to respond to her quoting my post, but you pretty much did the job. By posting three off topic videos of black racism, she must believe all black racists are either part of or have ties to the New Black Panthers. Tsk Tsk.. Silly rabbit
It's "off topic" to you because you don't want to believe racism applies to anyone who isn't black. Black panthers were the ones peddling 'black power' back in the day. Who on the street interpreted that as an entitlement to behave like a thug, vs others who simply stood tall in their own shoes and took their right to self defense seriously? Big difference. There is no selective attention going on in the principles of the anti defamation league & SPLC criteria. It is you who have selective attention deficit disorder. If you wanted to know what I believed you would have tried asking respectfully. One Ms Cleo in the world is plenty, TYVM.

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you mean during the Lily White movement? Lily-White Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
EXCELLENT point! The competing brand of racism with dixiecrats? I don't think so- I think dixiecrats were facing opposition and eviction from the party so they set up shop in R's party. Racism having a platform in both parties created another dispora from the south to the north. It also became a means of emptying southern jail houses by putting them on a one way bus for Chicago, NYC etc. Wasn't that sweet of them?
You need to be fully honest here though. Just like the original baptist preachers of southern regions started out against racism, they were peer pressured into it for numerous reasons. Some of those reasons were about financial gain, others about power over others in rebranded good old boy networks, and yet others really were about persecution. White churches, judges, cops, individuals etc that supported the rights of blacks were terrorized. There remain a x % of southern population who refuse to pander to racists, and they're not all liberals. Know this.

My point overall; racism doesn't belong in any camp that has authority over public policy. The job requirements should be vetting them out. You cannot uphold an oath of office cherry picking which constituents you'll serve and which you won't. Dixiecrats & Lily whites wouldn't have a viable party of their own so they've messed with all other parties.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:38 AM
 
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Any reference to the KKK evokes 'outrage' and keeps them underground while the Black panthers operate with the sanction of Eric Holder's justice dept.

The dems embraced a longtime KKK senator so by official consensus the BPs win hands down as they operate openly.
Senator Byrd was not a 'longtime KKK' senator. He involved himself with them briefly, and resigned his affiliation with them for a reason that went beyond politics. It's called having a conscience.

Jesse Helm and David Duke are not the same as Byrd. Night and day.
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Since the black panthers can't (or won't) be prosecuted for their actions, they are far more dangerous.
Kracer and yourself have failed to point out what actions you consider black panthers are engaging illegally.

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Yes, clearly a person with a weapon would be intimidated by a person carrying a video camera. The only reason the guy with the weapon could be intimidated by a camera is because he knew someone was documenting him breaking the law.
Can we say the same of the Tea party verbally attacking a CNN reporter for the 'crime' of asking questions?

Who is manipulating whom?

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He was there with an official poll watcher so it was ok to stand outside with a police baton? That's insane... pure insanity.
Funny if this were any other thread you'd see the NRA posse jump you for daring to take any man's right to bear arms from him.

What nasty whites do= sleazy evil whites like Charles Manson and Tex Watson use a pretext to incite race wars. They also incite blacks to cannibalize one another with paranoia (J Edgar Hoover).

What nasty blacks do
= Black folks, it's high time you name it as loudly as you would KKK and quit defending BS.

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Old 04-28-2011, 09:57 AM
 
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The 1981 Weather Underground, Black Liberation Army-related Triple Murder in Nyack, NY

The Black Panters/Black Liberation Army were responsible for the killing of police officers and others back in my hometown years ago.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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you have a long way to go before you get into the ballpark of those poor black souls hanging from a tree somewhere.

heaven forbid a little 14 year old black boy, from the north, would dare to whistles at a little white girl in the south.



yes, that is a little boy... here is a picture before his beating.



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The 1981 Weather Underground, Black Liberation Army-related Triple Murder in Nyack, NY

The Black Panters/Black Liberation Army were responsible for the killing of police officers and others back in my hometown years ago.
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Old 04-28-2011, 01:53 PM
 
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you have a long way to go before you get into the ballpark of those poor black souls hanging from a tree somewhere.

heaven forbid a little 14 year old black boy, from the north, would dare to whistles at a little white girl in the south.

yes, that is a little boy... here is a picture before his beating.
That's all the justification Atanta blacks need to scream white she devil at me for the crime of being white on MLK blvd?
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While he lived with the Ruffners, Booker Washington witnessed a riot that dramatized the struggles of race and class with which he would have to live for the remainder of his life. Even in that border community there were night riders, white men with masks, who began to meet up the hollows in the night and called themselves Gideon's Band or the Ku Klux Klan. They brought the beast of unreason into the "peaceable kingdom" of Malden. ...
Meeting the white men congregated at Daddow's Foundry, General Ruffner began to expostulate with them and "was struck by a `brick bat' while thus trying to quiet the minds of the white men." The brick hit the General in the back of the head and removed him from command. He fell to the ground unconscious, and the battle resumed. In a round of revolver fire, a white man was wounded in the arm and another in the thigh. Both sides, however, soon exhausted the loads in their revolvers. They turned to the poor people's ammunition, and went at each other with bricks, rocks, and clubs. Meanwhile, the General's son David and R. A. Coleman dragged the old man, seemingly lifeless, from the battleground. He lay for days in a critical condition, and never completely recovered from the effects of the blow.48

The Negro youth Booker T. Washington took in the whole scene and carried the memory of it through the rest of his life. "It seemed to me as I watched this struggle between members of the two races," he later recalled, "that there was no hope for our people in this country."49 The danger of a black man transgressing the racial codes of the whites was certainly one of the lessons of this incident. But another lesson was a class one, that the white paternalist was the black man's only friend, albeit never a perfect one and in this case an ineffectual one.
Booker T. Washington's West Virginia Boyhood
Was that so, Booker T? Who had faith in your intelligence? Who nurtured & cultivated, invested their faith, time, and energy into your character and education?
Shouldn't Booker T, Viola, Gen'l Ruffner, and many other of us all be on the same page? General Ruffner died of his injuries, sustained in the defense of liberty for all. He DESERVES that bow of the head respect from blacks but they don't want to believe what doesn't fit in their narrative. Instead history ignores him and both extremes spit on his grave. I have nothing but contempt for all who would spit at a patriot and a good Christian man.

WV told the truth of both sides, and there are how many outsiders claiming racism from them? Think about it. Shall we all get in the business of being truthful and fair, or will you allow the beast of unreason to prevail even today? What is the likelihood Spelman college will ever address the credit due all those who stood on the side of reason, truth, and justice? Slim to none I'm afraid.

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Shortly before his death, Dr. King had the moral courage to confront the burgeoning Jew hatred of both extreme leftwing Black organizations, including the Black Panthers and the radicalized Student Non-violent Coordinating Committee, as well as the Black Muslims. For example, during a 1968 appearance at Harvard University, he stated bluntly:

"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews, You are talking anti-Semitism."
Doing Zionism - Dr. King: Anti-Zionism Is Anti-Semitism (http://www.hagshama.org.il/doingzionism/resources/view.asp?id=1823 - broken link)
If KKK didn't send their assassin first, how long behind were panthers to take him out?
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"I shouted out 'Who killed the Kennedy's, when after all, it was YOU and ME." ~the rolling stones
See if you can you spot the irony:

YouTube - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for The Devil ( Live 1969 Altamont
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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This was a toughy. I haven't noticed the Black Panthers hanging anyone from trees, but on the other hand I feel the KKK is sort of washed up.
I don't really know about the Black Panthers. I always thought it was just about being proud and helping others along in business, etc, just like many other nationalities have done, so I don't really know if they are sinister or not.
if that creepy Farrakhan guy is in the black panthers, then thumbs down.
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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350 years of oppression does that to you.

As a young college student I found myself walking down a street I shouldn't have been on, I had little black kids throw rocks at me and call me hunkie. I have no hard feelings toward those misguided kids.

who knows, maybe you were acting like you are better than them and had it coming.
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That's all the justification Atanta blacks need to scream white she devil at me for the crime of being white on MLK blvd?
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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fyi, the KKK is very much alive, they just hide in the shadows. there are 186 separate Ku Klux Klan (KKK) groups with 52 websites.

There are also:
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This was a toughy. I haven't noticed the Black Panthers hanging anyone from trees, but on the other hand I feel the KKK is sort of washed up.
I don't really know about the Black Panthers. I always thought it was just about being proud and helping others along in business, etc, just like many other nationalities have done, so I don't really know if they are sinister or not.
if that creepy Farrakhan guy is in the black panthers, then thumbs down.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:44 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Before anyone keeps going.....


Black Panthers = organization started in the 60's created to help black communities and black people who, as we all know, didn't get the same rights or fair treatment as whites and only used violence when provoked. And talking to my grandparents (since they'd know more than I would ever know about those days) blacks were provoked a hell of a lot and not all wanted to follow in MLK's message of pacifism.

NEW Black Panthers = organization started in '89 created for alot of the same reasons the original Panthers.... only, there's less reason for them to be around now and they go BEYOND interms of intimidation and violence.



Now, if you're goning to have this B.S. comparison, then at least put the right groups in the right place. Seriously, everytime I someone says "the (Original) Black Panthers are the black equivalent to the KKK", I just wanna slap the sh*t out of em.....

Yes, racism is racism and you see it from everyone. But the Panthers were NO KKK.

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Old 07-07-2011, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Austell, Georgia
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KKK by far. They went around lynching blacks. Black Panthers were formed to uplift and protect blacks from racist whites in the 60s. As usual the goverment infiltrated them because they were black people promoting self love. They did it to the Nation of Islam, Marcus Garvey, Nuwaubians, and the Moorish Science Temple. Just to name a few.
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