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I stuck with your link to nsidc.org/sotc since it is well organized. It sources its information from IPCC, or The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's reports. A very reliable source of information.
Well done! Brings to mind the word 'hoisted' and the phrase 'one's own petard'.
Notice that many of them are "if nothing is done" but in fact something was done. Industry and even government took action. The Cuyahoga river no longer catches fire. Smog has been reduced greatly. The main thing that changed is back then they were predicting global cooling and a new ice age.
When was the last time we saw a dinosaur (alive) or an Azetc? Aztec Society
What we should try to do, is improve our environment, so as to have a better quality of life for us and the generations to come.
What we should not do, is throw money (tax dollars) at something that does not exist, or that will not amount to a hill a beans, in the realistic scheme of things.
Stop buying what the government 'studies' are trying to sell us and make sure they are doing the job we are paying them to do, in the first place. If they continue to waste time and money, we should fire them and hire replacements.
~ do a follow up on George Carlin on u-tube and find out why he didn't vote. ~
Sea levels are rising, not quickly, but they have been rising. The average temperature has gone up. We know that we've contributed to these things.
Dinosaurs and Aztecs did not have the technological capability that we do.
You're not a meteorologist. You're not a biologist, chemist, etc.
It's not only the government that conducts such studies.
This should really not be a partisan issue, nor a government vs. no government issue.
So I guess we shouldn't try to avoid catastrophe and go extinct? Is that the deal?
How will paying a global carbon tax prevent catastrophe?
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Sea levels are rising, not quickly, but they have been rising. The average temperature has gone up. We know that we've contributed to these things.
Dinosaurs and Aztecs did not have the technological capability that we do.
You're not a meteorologist. You're not a biologist, chemist, etc.
It's not only the government that conducts such studies.
This should really not be a partisan issue, nor a government vs. no government issue.
Supposedly, the Earth's temperature has risen 1/2 degree.......over 150 years, the most important years in this planet's 6 billion year history. At least that's what the cult believers would have us believe.
I just have to ask: do the warmists believe that the arctic ice/antarctic ice is STATIC, never changes? Do they realize there IS a "summer" melt at both areas, you know, where the ice melts, retreats and then advances?
This has been going on for like......BILLIONS of year.
Sarene, truly I admire your misguided chutzpah. I mean even after Air Force and many other threads where you've been proven wrong time and time again you continue the same tactics only to convince yourself and entrenched individuals that we are truly blessed and have no impact on climate.
I wish that 6 billion people and tons of CO2 had no impact. However, I prefer to go with the generally scientifically accepted models that there is a problem.
Now as far as a Carbon tax, are you referring to cap and trade? Initially that was a Republican idea. I didn't support it then...nor do I now. I don't think we need another derivatives market and the European model of cap and trade has done little to nothing on reducing CO2 (not that you care about that...but many people do, notably those that aren't wearing rose colored glasses).
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Originally Posted by calibro1
Sea levels are rising, not quickly, but they have been rising. The average temperature has gone up. We know that we've contributed to these things.
Dinosaurs and Aztecs did not have the technological capability that we do.
You're not a meteorologist. You're not a biologist, chemist, etc.
It's not only the government that conducts such studies.
This should really not be a partisan issue, nor a government vs. no government issue.
Every thing the earth is doing now, the earth was doing long before we got here. We didn't cause it. I don't have to be a meteorologist to understand the earth is aging. From that aging process brings about volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, etc....
The only thing difference between now and dinosaur age, is now we have the ability to detect weather events and prepare for them. The dinosaurs had their wits and intuitions.
However, then we have to take our technology further and find out if a gain can be had on the part of the people.
While I can appreciate this should not be a government issue---the line is so thin, between us and them, as they have grown bigger---there is no line any more.
The common joke has always been, if the government could tax us on the air we breath, they would.
The atmosphere is primarily composed of Nitrogen (N2, 78%), Oxygen (O2, 21%), and Argon (Ar, 1%). A myriad of other very influential components are also present which include the water (H2O, 0 - 7%), "greenhouse" gases or Ozone (O, 0 - 0.01%), and Carbon Dioxide (CO2, 0.01-0.1%).
(my emphasis in bold)
Now what is left, they have to sell it to us, so as we will accept the tax. Question now is, will the people buy into what they are selling so as they can begin their gain in the form of tax dollars? Or will the people engage their minds into critical thinking and go...wait a minute, what?
Also will they fire those in government for wasting their time, along with our time and money?
A smart man one told me once, 'anything will sell as long as the presentation is applied appropriately'.
Maybe some of these predictions seem in hindsight to be wrong. Did you consider the possibility that those dire predictions forced industry and government to take pre-emptive action ( like banning CFCs, raising CAFE, implementing Energy Star, etc.) and it was these actions that prevented the predictions from becoming true.
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Or will the people engage their minds into critical thinking and go...wait a minute, what?
