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Old 04-26-2011, 09:13 PM
 
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"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

-Amendment X USCON

Hm, Vermont's proposal passes my Constitutional smell test. I approve of it.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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Hey, as long as they don't go whining to the federal government they need money I'm all for it.

I really gotta laugh, it's been passed by the state house...

Now all they have to do is figure out how the funding will work.

Typical a**hole politicians, pass the bill first then worry where the money will come from second.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well I hope they've studied how this didn't work in Mass. and make sure the same doesn't happen to them.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yeah, let's let Vermont--and Vermont only--start caring for their citizens and start SAVING taxpayer money.

Heck, even if it did cost money, you cannot put a price tag on the lives of your fellow citizens, and any attempt to do so is shameful.
Did you read the article in the OP's post ?

Here's the important piece....
"..failing to answer critical questions such as what the health benefit package would be, how much it would cost or how to pay for it."

The bill they passed is just to explore the possibility of a single payer plan..there are ZERO details.

So how can you post about saving taxpayer money ?
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:32 PM
 
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Meanwhile Romneycare is still not working.

RomneyCare: Nope, Still Not Working - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

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The Massachusetts Medical Society found that 56% of physicians are not taking on new patients. Wait times for appointments are climbing. Just two years after reform took root, one clinic in Western Massachusetts had amassed a waiting list of 1,600 patients.

RomneyCare expanded coverage simply by putting more people on the dole. Since 2006, 440,000 people have been added to state-funded insurance rolls. Medicaid enrollment alone is up nearly 25%, and Massachusetts is struggling to cover the cost.
Maybe Vermont has a better trick up its sleeve?
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:34 PM
 
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Fortunately there are some States not taken over by the Money Controllers.

Vermont Moves Toward Single-Payer Health Coverage
Vermont is no model for anything.

Liberals flock to the "cities" in VT, like Burlington, to escape reality.

And those "intellectual liberals" whom the "worker bees in VT state gov't" pay attention to, absolutely can't stand the long time living/have roots in VT,non-lib folks in the sticks of VT. They don't want to help them, they blame them for "mud season" and how gloomy VT is more days out a year than it isn't.

VT is good for skiing. That's about it and that's what the state should stick with promoting.

Not some stupid liberal agenda coming out of a state where lost libs flock to and are trying to take over.
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Old 04-28-2011, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Masscare has been an overall failure.


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Err, Masscare is NOT a Single Payer system and before you go there, neither is Hawaii.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:19 AM
 
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As a conservative, if this is what the voters of Vermont want, more power to them.

But, I couldn't help notice the author being the typical liberal that he is couldn't write an article without insulting repubs. They just can't help themselves.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Doesn't Vermont have to get a waiver from the federal government to implement this? I heard this is a main reason why there is a bill to move up the 2017 start date for waivers to 2014 at the federal level.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I like the spin in the title. Reminds me when Bush "moved forward" on Iraq, or how Obama "moved forward" on Afghanistan.
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