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I have a cousin named Hakeem so I must be a muslim terrorist and I don't show my college transcripts to everyone so my whole education must not have happened. Oh and I knew a couple of people in high school that were convicted of crimes as adults so I guess I must be a criminal too. I think I am going to take over the country and force my radical Muslim views on everyone. Then I will open the borders and let all my ancestors from Africa, Scotland and Finland come over here, get on welfare, burn flags and trash the constitution.
We were facing all the same problem then as we are now with the exception of a larger debt ceiling (which is virtually unpayable anyways). In fact, some make the argument that things were worse in 2008 than they are now.
So that's not really a good argument. The best thing you guys have is to just stick to the first and second copies were legal.
Your post has nothing to do with mine. I made no reference to anything like that, or anything about 2008. I'm talking about Trumps stupid publicity stunt taking over the nation distracting us from real issues.
Your post has nothing to do with mine. I made no reference to anything like that, or anything about 2008. I'm talking about Trumps stupid publicity stunt taking over the nation distracting us from real issues.
Actually, it has a lot to do with your post. We have all the same problems now as we did in 2008 when the birther stuff started. So your arguement that times are bad and that's why Obama released the LFBC makes no sense.
i'll be curious to see if this one has legs. i uploaded the PDF and ran it through photoshop and AI. the errors that the video points out are consistent with a PDF conversion and would make absolutely no sense in forging a document.
Actually, it has a lot to do with your post. We have all the same problems now as we did in 2008 when the birther stuff started. So your arguement that times are bad and that's why Obama released the LFBC makes no sense.
That was never my argument at all. This birther thing was always a fringe movement, few average people knew or cared about it, it was never in the media much at all until Trump made it a ridiculous media circus. It has nothing to whether things are good or bad in the US right now. There are ALWAYS real issues to discuss, they should NEVER be taken over by conspiracy theories, and famous people spreading lies. That had to end so we could get back to real issues again. It's just simple common sense, if some famous guy is using conspiracy theories to have everyone's focus placed on them a good leader will do what is necessary to get us back to important issues.
The Republicans have given Obama a gift with the birther issue. And now that Obama's popularity has taken a bit of a hit, what better time than to release this.
There will still be many conservatives who will question whether or not he is a citizen, which will in turn make conservatives seem kooky. It will also quite possibly be thrown in the faces of the Republican candidate in 2012.
This issue is a huge turn off to average Americans who are sick of it. The birther issue will continue to be a thron in the side of Republicans as Obama has stuck the thorn in even deeper by doing this.
The economy is going to be a much bigger concern than what Conservatives think about Obama's BC.
The economy is going to be a much bigger concern than what Conservatives think about Obama's BC.
As it should be! I don't care where anyone stands politically, or if they like or hate Obama, nobody should be wasting time discussing silly, easily disproved conspiracy theories. There are far too many real issues to deal with to spend one second focused on this silliness.
3. unemployment at 9% And Falling, by 2012 they will be below 8% and that is that for that whining. FYI, it is not the job of the President to creat jobs only a socialist would think so. But if you think so tell me what the House ha done on the issue, never mind I now the answer, Nothing, since it is not their job either.
While it not the job of the President to create jobs, please be aware that the policies of government has a well defined impact on the job market. President Reagan's policies help the country create millions of jobs.
4. proposes $1.6 trillion deficit for 2012, when at the same time he is talking about fiscal "responsibility" I do not like raising the debt, but if you know anything about American politics/history this is not the first time nor will it be the last. As for fiscal responsibility I am all for that, so long as it is done logically.
Fiscal responsibility? That would mean not spending more money than you get. If I ran my household finances the way Obama is allowing the country's finances to be run, I wouldn't have a place to live.
5. inability to address the illegal immigration issue Again, just like Every other President before him. I would prefer to cut of the head of the snake and arrest those that hire illegals, you know business men then you put n end to the problem for good.
Good idea, arrest everyone who hires illegals, AND kick the illegals out of the country when they are found. 2 birds with 1 stone.
6. aimless foriegn policy which at one point condemns involvement in the middle east, while at the same time entering a war in Libya Doesn't look aimless to me, slowly but surely pulling us out of Iraq (a country we should not have invaded when we did, another legacy from the previous President). We are finally fghting the war in Afganistan we should have finished long ago and would have had not the REAL war been put on hold by the previous President. Libya does not have US ground troops involved and will be proven to be a success in a short period of time.
Obama promises to get us out of "XYZ", and does nothing. Even our own soldiers have no idea what they are doing. Turn em loose and let em do whatever is supposed to be done, then leave.
7. inability to act in the Gulf oil spill Please explain what on earth he was supposed to do? You speak of your intelligence yet do not seem to know that the government has no capabilites to deal with oil spills, that is the business and rsponsibility of oil companies that spill it. But, hey never miss an opportunity to attack the President no matter the facts or lack of.
A number of countries offered assistance, and their assistance would have greatly lessened the damage and impact of the oil spill. The government has booms and equipment just for this issue, at was weeks before we mobilized it, while turning down aid as it was offered in handling the issue. It takes no intelligence to accept help, but hey, the President only had to say, "Yes, thank you!".
8. suing states attempting to enforce US immigration laws, which the president himself ignores Another untruth, border agents have been more than doubled over what the previous President had there, that does not sound like ignoring the isue to me. As for the States, it is not within their set of responsibilites or powers to establish or enforce US border security or immigration laws, I would have thought someone as smart as you would have known that.
Wrong again, The states have ALWAYS enforced state and federal law. If a federal law is broken, and a local law enforcement agent sees it happen, they arrest the perp. They don't walk away and say, "It's not my job, it's the job of federal law enforcement". That's inane AND stupid. Additionally, the Laws Arizona was passing, only mirror the federal laws, and in fact also mirror laws already on the books even in states like California. Maybe it's time for the border states to station the state's guard and reservists along the border and simply shoot anyone who tries to cross.
9. Limiting exploration of US coal and oil while gasoline prices soar It is not being limited, there are thousands of rigs in the gulf alone not to mention across the nation. He did make the rules harder for deep wells to qualify and as we can see it is for good reason, and you complain about that problem above, hmmmmm
Wow, how wrong can you get. Recently a million dollar company just went out of business because the goverment has been refusing to allow them permits, and Shell has been trying to start drilling off of the coast of alaska, this time the permit is being held up because of the "greenhouse emissions" of the boats required to drill.
10. failure to deal with flawed trade polices of NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status, despite campaign promises to do so You have issues dealing with the countries that border this nation or with the soon to be largest economy in the world? Isolationist thinking and actions is flawed in its logic and led to WWI.
We need to ditch these "most favored" trade status bargains other countries get, especially when it places them in a position to sell for cheaper the same goods made locally, forcing our own citizens out of business.
11. violation of US campaing laws by bribing a senate candidate to drop out of an election Provide proof here and to the Justice Department so we can all see your sources and discuss the truth or lack of within them.
Well, see what the union says I guess it's proof enough -“"It’s pretty stunning,’’ saidRobert J. Haynes, president of the Massachusetts AFL-CIO. “These are the same Democrats that all these labor unions elected."
12. barring prosecution of the Black Panthers in disrupting elections He did not bar prosecution, they did not block anyone from the polls so hence commited no crime.
Wrong again - http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wi...imidation-case
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