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Old 04-29-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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Of course, it makes a lot of sense blaming the people with an education for our problems...

Instead of looking for scapegoats, why not actually solve the problem rationally?
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:20 AM
Status: "1st day of summer feels like fall" (set 19 days ago)
 
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You assume that they are not chipping in on the premiums.

I think this is a good thing. I would like to see Social Security come up for a NEW vote. Why should FUTURE generations be held hostage to a govt program that they did not even vote for?
I was on my fathers healthcare plan till i was 18 went to work on the railroad and it was part of my employment package. I never gave my father money for healtcare premiums it was part of his employment package. For 25 years i never paid into heathcare till the new contract in 2003 when the union agreed that we would pay.
I had several thousand dollars of back pay owed me and i received just $93.57 cents the rest went to my company's healthcare plan [UNITED HEALTHCARE].You know the problem today is they treat you younguns with kid gloves at 18 not only did i get the right to vote i could legally drink BEER... YUM...3.2 % beer but we felt like grownups ready to take on the world....
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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It's not really a choice. It's a gift from their parents and grandparents. And ALL of the Congressmen and women who have served as Representative.
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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It's not really a choice. It's a gift from their parents and grandparents. And ALL of the Congressmen and women who have served as Representative.
I disagree. The youth can vote for inflationists who will diminish the purchasing power of the savings and benefits of older people and increase their own ability to earn wages and invest, since they have more time on their hands to take more aggressive investment positions and earn wages. They can make the old pay for the debt more than they would.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:19 AM
Status: "1st day of summer feels like fall" (set 19 days ago)
 
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Bush made it much bigger and more socialist than JFK.

Let's not forget that "America's greatest generation" is demanding their FDR handout they spent a long time ago.
My parents received Railroad Retirement not Social Security but were entitled to Medicare thru a clause in the railroad retirement plan did you know that? RRB is also a FDR program and at one time i would of worked till i was 72 but over time they lowered the age requirement to 67,65,62 now its 60 years old with 30 years of service.
Today we live longer and work less time and are out living the funds we put in. My pension payment every pay [bi-weekly] exceeded my local,state and federal taxes combined which was a big chunk of change every pay day.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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I wonder how many of them are at college at the taxpayers dime
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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My parents received Railroad Retirement not Social Security but were entitled to Medicare thru a clause in the railroad retirement plan did you know that? RRB is also a FDR program and at one time i would of worked till i was 72 but over time they lowered the age requirement to 67,65,62 now its 60 years old with 30 years of service.
Today we live longer and work less time and are out living the funds we put in. My pension payment every pay [bi-weekly] exceeded my local,state and federal taxes combined which was a big chunk of change every pay day.
Good on you!
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Well, the first part is you have the parents who voted for these measures and benefited from them screaming the same thing. If it's not their responsibility to pay for it, why is it the responsibility of those who had no say in what was done at all. The parents might as well buy a house and foist the mortgage onto their kid because they live there in that reasoning.

Add into that kids will do what they learn from their parents. If it's not the responsibility of the parents to actually be responsible for what they did, do you think kids will grow up any different? Kids never learn "Do what I say, not what I do". The adults need to man up and not expect their kids to do what they can't.

It was the parents responsibility to manage things responsibly, for their own generation and the next, and they failed. Now people want to foist paying a more generous retirement plan onto seniors that their grandchildren will ever get (Ryan's budget), while many actively blame those kids directly for slacking in finding a job in a failed economy with 14 million unemployed (not partisan, it's a number of people's faults).

There are responsible people out there, but it seems too many have been driven away by people who are so damn unhinged no one would want to be near them or the focus of their rage. Now people are finally starting to see how screwed they are, and if you expect people to lay down and die...well it will be an interesting ride.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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First they wouldn't redistribute grades, no they feel they don't owe anything to our national debt although Obama is making sure they will be saddled with a ton of it.



‘Not My Debt’: College Students Refuse Pledge to Pay Their Share of National Debt | The Blaze


This is our youth today, greedy, needy and plain out BRAINWASHED! They really feel that they are OWED everything, but OWE nothing.

Oddly, this is the same demographic that voted Obama into office, only to mortgage thier own future.

If they actually had a clue as to what Barry did to them, they would wake up, jumpstart thier brains, and become fiscal conservatives. Don't count on it anytime soon.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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Oddly, this is the same demographic that voted Obama into office, only to mortgage thier own future.

If they actually had a clue as to what Barry did to them, they would wake up, jumpstart thier brains, and become fiscal conservatives. Don't count on it anytime soon.
I agree. They love the guy, voted for him, but have no clue what he is doing to them and still fail to see it.
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