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I'm never OK with innocent people dying but we can't always prevent it either. War is war. It's an ugly business.
Ken
I'm pretty sure we can prevent killing innocent people in Libya, we just have to stop dropping bombs on them. War is an ugly business, especially when you attacked your predecessor for starting a few and then you start your own under the same circumstances.
I'm pretty sure we can prevent killing innocent people in Libya, we just have to stop dropping bombs on them.
And then OTHER innocent people would die in their place. Likely MORE innocent than are dying NOW. At least NATO doesn't deliberately TARGET innocent folks.
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War is an ugly business, especially when you attacked your predecessor for starting a few and then you start your own under the same circumstances.
As opposed to SUPPORTING that predecessor then attacking his successor under the same circumstances?
Sorry, but our level of involvement in Libya does not BEGIN to COMPARE to level of involvement in Iraq. When we have tens of thousands of troops in Libya like we sent into Iraq THEN you'll have point. Until then you're just dull.
We're not spreading Democracy in Libya. The Libyans are doing it themselves - and YES it's rarely done without bloodshed. Plenty of it was shead here 200+ years ago as WE grew into OUR Democracy as well.
Ken
If they are doing it themselves how do you explain our presence?
Sure I support the overthrow, but not with our resources, which are sorely needed here.
Why should Americans be forced to sacrifice lives, resources and money for their regime change?
And then OTHER innocent people would die in their place. Likely MORE innocent than are dying NOW. At least NATO doesn't deliberately TARGET innocent folks.
As opposed to SUPPORTING that predecessor then attacking his successor under the same circumstances?
Sorry, but our level of involvement in Libya does not BEGIN to COMPARE to level of involvement in Iraq. When we have tens of thousands of troops in Libya like we sent into Iraq THEN you'll have point. Until then you're just dull.
Ken
I've never supported the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, I knew we would never get out of them just like the war in Libya. So we're killing innocent people before the Libya's government can kill them, I'm sure that makes them feel better.
If they are doing it themselves how do you explain our presence?
Sure I support the overthrow, but not with our resources, which are sorely needed here.
Why should Americans be forced to sacrifice lives, resources and money for their regime change?
We don't have that much of a "presence". Mostly we are providing support for our ALLIES in THEIR efforts.
I'm never OK with innocent people dying but we can't always prevent it either. War is war. It's an ugly business.
Ken
Wait a minute.
You did it AGAIN.
You just said this was a war in Libya.
If it is a war and you just said it was then your boy the dumb ass in the WH just broke the law by sending troops into a war without complete authorization of congress as required by law.
One minute you say it is a war and then when someone calls you out you run and hide.
Which way is it? You cannot have it both way anymore.
Either Obama broke the law or you have no clue as to what the heck you are talking about.
You ran and hid for days after I called you out on your blunder about OBL because you said killing him was an act of war yet we are not in a war in Pakistan that I know of.
We don't have that much of a "presence". Mostly we are providing support for our ALLIES in THEIR efforts.
Ken
I suspect the innocent recipients of our bombs would disagree with you on your definition of "presence"
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest
If they are doing it themselves how do you explain our presence?
Sure I support the overthrow, but not with our resources, which are sorely needed here. Why should Americans be forced to sacrifice lives, resources and money for their regime change?
I've never supported the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, I knew we would never get out of them just like the war in Libya. So we're killing innocent people before the Libya's government can kill them, I'm sure that makes them feel better.
Considering that we have virtually ZERO casualties and ZERO troops in Libya - and THOUSANDS of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. I suggest you focus your gripes on the war in THOSE countries then - unless of course you are simply trying to score some political points by focusing on a war that had zero involvement with Bush.
I suspect the innocent recipients of our bombs would disagree on your definition of "presence"
As if NATO wasn't involved there wouldn't have been any innocent victims.
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Can you answer the rest of my question Ken?
Regional stability.
Ken
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