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You can't try to continue a social order where White Privilege accord you social, economic and political advantages if White Men are dating and marrying and having children with Black women in large numbers. Unless of course, you don't feel a need to preserve that social order.
I don't think a lot of "Whites" really care about preserving a White social order. Over the last 25 years many whites have been led to believe they really don't need to take pride in theyre race and many people are fine with that. In my opinion Nationalistic ideals whether they are Race, Ethnic or in some other form have not served this world very well, unless population control through warfare is desirable.
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is the UK more accepting? if you judge it off media you would think so.. i watch several british shows and they include black women in alot of things including dating like it is no big deal at all. which makes me wana move to london in hopes i could have an easier time then i do in america with anything including dating.
but recently i read that interracial marriage between black women and white men are at a record high in the UK...if i find the article again ill post the link
White guilt makes White Male-Black Female relationships a borderline taboo. It hearkens back to when slave owners had relationships with enslaved Black women. Whether consensual or not, the power imbalance made such relationships illegitimate if not an abuse of power.
Black Male-White Female relationships are far more politically correct since it reverses the shameful time when black men were accosted or even killed for whistling at White women.
I actually think the opposite is true:
In The United States, we've defined black males as the personification of evil. Thus, for the woman, a black male/white female relationship is seen as a form of "sleeping with the devil".
On the other hand, relationships between white males and black females are seen by many as exotic and eclectic. At any rate, they certainly carry far less stigma within the white community.
Didn't the same dynamics exist under British colonial rule in Africa and the Caribbean? Interestingly, many black British women and white British men do not seem to have the same issues as their American counterparts...
I suspect this to be true. In America "race" has become many's meal ticket...it affords a lot of people their livelihood; one reason why any logical discourse about it and ultimate elimination of "racial" categories is light years away from every occuring. If people really understood the economic benefits of perpetuating "race" in the U.S. then it would come to an end, instantly.
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I'm Jamaican.
In more Caribbean households we're taught not to date black America women due to attitude, if you're bothered by this I cannot help you but the point remains attitude has alot to do with it and many overseas are generally more accepted and less hated.
I'm not saying racism doesn't exist because I've though more than my share but the American culture is a good part of the problem.
Ok, seriously? This is so not true. In YOUR household you were taught this. My sister's ex was Caribbean and he only dated black American women. Perhaps your parents just wanted you to date/marry a white or other nonblack American to be accepted...hmmm.
OP Original Question: What accounts for these differences between the UK and the US?
I believe it has a lot to do with how slavery ended in the US vs the UK. In the UK, there was no civil unrest so to speak about slavery like in the US...there wasn't an internal split with the countries that made up the UK, while in the US, the states were against each other about the expansion and continuation of slavery.
After the Union won the American Civil War, race relations actually became worse than the institution of slavery itself. Remember, the Civil Rights Movement was nearly 100 years AFTER slavery was abolished in the US...pretty sad actually. So, racial tensions in the US have been more aggravated than in the UK, for a shorter period of time. IMO.
In more Caribbean households we're taught not to date black America women due to attitude, if you're bothered by this I cannot help you but the point remains attitude has alot to do with it and many overseas are generally more accepted and less hated.
I'm not saying racism doesn't exist because I've though more than my share but the American culture is a good part of the problem.
I know of a Haitian woman who was taught the same thing. Her parents preferred for her to date a Haitian man, but they had no problems with men of other ethnicities with one notable exception. The first thing her mother said was "NO AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN". I have heard this from some African women as well.
When I dated a black lady, the dirty, nasty, mean looks and comments came from black men and women. Most were directed at her for "acting white".
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