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I will never understand why conservatives in this country are so in love with the rich.
A better question would be why a conservative American would be in love with Red China. They have not one issue with moving their operations over to and employing communist and then bending over and kissing their socialist Butts. A guess its all for the buck. Patriots my ass.
Brining jobs back to America is a matter of AMERICAN Choice. Boycott WALMART until they unionize. Driving down American wages is only destroying the middle class and helping the Robber Barons to the Third World Labor Force they want. Force your local government to arrest employers who employ illegals. Buy American made cars and appliances.
Taxing the rich is only getting back part of the 40% of the uS economy they have stolen in the last decade.
A better question would be why a conservative American would be in love with Red China. They have not one issue with moving their operations over to and employing communist and then bending over and kissing their socialist Butts. A guess its all for the buck. Patriots my ass.
Maybe, in a supreme stroke of irony, the Chinese offer less tax burdens on American companies.
If you, as a liberal, ran a Fortune 500 company what would you do to make things "right".
Whatever your answer is I guarantee it would destroy the company.
91% employment in America thanks to Wal-Mart, Apple, IBM, GE, etc., etc.
It's the pride in building things and helping your country through free commerce.
That's the "relevance".
Why won't the poor hire more people.
Oh yeah...they can't.
Well lets give them government jobs then.
I think you mean 9% unemployment, which is almost double of normal levels of unemployment... thanks to wal-mart, apple, ibm, ge, etc etc.
Again, whats your point with the poor not hiring people? Guess what, the poor are the ones who buy from wal-mart, which allow the owners to get rich. It's not a one way street. The poor and the middle class are the ones who allow corporations to profit, and in turn they give us jobs.
Imagine your an evil rich person who hires and fires people at an evil private company.
You want to tax the bejeezus out of this awful rich guy because its not fair that he has so much money.
But you also want him not to pick up and move his company to a low tax country like Singapore because those fat union jobs (and union due$) would disappear too, thus making the union bosses less powerful.
Can't you see the bind Mr. evil entrepreneur is in?
Maybe in his cold, black heart there is a spark of warmth. Perhaps he would like to remain in New York or California but the 35% corporate tax rate (passed by liberals in the state legislature who receive massive campaign funds from unions) makes it impossible for him to compete with other companies. (I know in your utopian world there is no economic competition and the State decides which favored company shall prevail, but bear with me...)
Why not lower taxes a bit so he can bring those jobs back to America. Sure that would be a little less money with which the Democratic party can play with and dole out to favored special interests but why chase him away with taxes?
Let me ask you how has lower taxes on the rich and corporate subsidies tax breaks for the last ten years brought jobs back to America?
President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a recession was starting, and is preparing to leave in the middle of a long one. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office.
His job-creation record won’t look much better. The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton‘s administration and only slightly better than President George H.W. Bush did in his four years in office.
President Bush has presided over the weakest eight-year span for the U.S. economy in decades, according to an analysis of key data, and economists across the ideological spectrum increasingly view his two terms as a time of little progress on the nation's thorniest fiscal challenges.
The number of jobs in the nation increased by about 2 percent during Bush's tenure, the most tepid growth over any eight-year span since data collection began seven decades ago. Gross domestic product, a broad measure of economic output, grew at the slowest pace for a period of that length since the Truman administration. And Americans' incomes grew more slowly than in any presidency since the 1960s, other than that of Bush's father.
The whole argument of somehow that raising taxes on the rich or corporations is somehow going to destroy jobs is Fox News corporate sponsered bullsh*t designed to scared ignorant sheep while corporations have near record profits and they continue ot invest most of their money in emerginng market nations.
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You do know that Clinton raised taxes and 22 million jobs were created in his 8 years and businesses and the economy flourished, you have been mislead by that echo chamber.
You can clearly see the positive results of Clinton's tax policies.
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Originally Posted by clb10
Dear progressives:
Imagine your an evil rich person who hires and fires people at an evil private company.
You want to tax the bejeezus out of this awful rich guy because its not fair that he has so much money.
But you also want him not to pick up and move his company to a low tax country like Singapore because those fat union jobs (and union due$) would disappear too, thus making the union bosses less powerful.
Can't you see the bind Mr. evil entrepreneur is in?
Maybe in his cold, black heart there is a spark of warmth. Perhaps he would like to remain in New York or California but the 35% corporate tax rate (passed by liberals in the state legislature who receive massive campaign funds from unions) makes it impossible for him to compete with other companies. (I know in your utopian world there is no economic competition and the State decides which favored company shall prevail, but bear with me...)
Why not lower taxes a bit so he can bring those jobs back to America. Sure that would be a little less money with which the Democratic party can play with and dole out to favored special interests but why chase him away with taxes?
Maybe, in a supreme stroke of irony, the Chinese offer less tax burdens on American companies.
If you, as a liberal, ran a Fortune 500 company what would you do to make things "right".
Whatever your answer is I guarantee it would destroy the company.
Let me explain something to you. I'm not a liberal. I have voted straight republican for years until recently. I'm 54 years old and never in my life have I seen such arrogance from the republican party. The republicans blew it in 2006 and soon lost both houses. Why is that? When Bush told the American people they need to fork over a trillion dollars to Wall Street that was it--fast forward Obama is president. Now the Dems do squat for a couple of years and a group of stiff republicans win the house because the Dems were shmucks. For some strange reason the republicans seem to think the US has given them approval of the way they handled this country during the later Bush years. They are wrong and will lose in short order if they persist in continuing to hand over America's wealth to the very wealthy, at the same time cut benefits paid for years by American workers. This smells like the eventual moving of our money into wall street one way or another. I can't prove none of this but will tell you I've always had knack in smelling out a rat. There is no doubt ulterior motives are afoot.
I think you mean 9% unemployment, which is almost double of normal levels of unemployment... thanks to wal-mart, apple, ibm, ge, etc etc.
Again, whats your point with the poor not hiring people? Guess what, the poor are the ones who buy from wal-mart, which allow the owners to get rich. It's not a one way street. The poor and the middle class are the ones who allow corporations to profit, and in turn they give us jobs.
91+9=100
The only reason unemployment isn't higher is because BUSINESSES STILL NEED EMPLOYEES!
The companies I mentioned that you hate HIRE PEOPLE TO MAKE THINGS AND SELL FOOD AND CLOTHING.
More commerce = LESS poor people.
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