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Old 05-18-2011, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The reality is these new laws amount to an unconstitutional poll tax since you are requiring people to buy something before they are allowed to vote. If the state wants to issue IDs free then that would pass constitutional muster but making people pay anything in order to be allowed to vote is unconstitutional and will be thrown out by the court.

The GOP has a million dirty tricks and a long history of attempting voter suppression. They know there are a lot fewer registered Republicans then registered Democrats so they routinely attempt to purge voter rolls to get rid of valid voters or make it more difficult to vote in areas which lean Democratic. The goal for them is to make voting as difficult as possible in the hopes that the other side's supporters will be unable or unwilling to vote. Personally, I'd be ashamed to be associated with party which did such things.
You would be ashamed to associate with a party that you accuse of all those things but you aren't ashamed to be associated with a party that works with ACORN, SEIU and others who have cheated at elections for years. You must really be something.
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:17 PM
 
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Or be a citizen, or even alive in some cases, the Dems will count any vote.
You gotta understand. Democrats think voter registration fraud and voting fraud are entirely different things.

Just like the conspiracy to commit murder and murder are entirely different things.

So in their eyes, Bugs Bunny should be able to register since he may, or may not, actually vote.
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Do you have any information where ACORN was ever convicted in local, state, or federal civil or criminal court for voter fraud?

Ex-ACORN worker: 'I paid the price' for voter registration fraud - CNN
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:26 PM
 
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I don't think even preventing a lot of people from exercising their voting rights, will help the Repubs in Wisc now.
In todays society, how is it possible to go without ID?
If they are poor they have to have ID to get EBT, welfare and other social services.

If there are problems with this, allow the destitute to get a state ID without paying the $10.
What if these people die out of their house, who is going to know them to get the kin notified?

Not having ID is bad. Not checking for ID regarding a vote when they even want ID to use a credit card at Taco Bell for $3 is ridiculous and can encourage fraud.
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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The reality is these new laws amount to an unconstitutional poll tax since you are requiring people to buy something before they are allowed to vote.

Unconstitutional to require someone to buy something...Hmmm.
Like insurance?


How does anyone function in society without identification?
You can't even get a library card without identification, or
cash their Gubmint checks, but they should vote without
identifying themselves? How does anyone think that's OK?
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:37 PM
 
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Unconstitutional to require someone to buy something...Hmmm.
Like insurance?


How does anyone function in society without identification?
You can't even get a library card without identification, or
cash their Gubmint checks, but they should vote without
identifying themselves? How does anyone think that's OK?
You have to have a ss. I would imagine the poor could have the state ID for free instead of paying the $10. The issue is to identify the voters, not penalize the poor.
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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The reality is these new laws amount to an unconstitutional poll tax since you are requiring people to buy something before they are allowed to vote.
Of course it was fine when .. At First .. The Obama admin. claimed a poll tax was legit for their Health Care monstrosity .. which they 'Quickly' backed off of After the courts got into the matter.

Where were you Then .. My leftist friend?
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:59 PM
 
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Of course it was fine when .. At First .. The Obama admin. claimed a poll tax was legit for their Health Care monstrosity .. which they 'Quickly' backed off of After the courts got into the matter.

Where were you Then .. My leftist friend?
If someone can't afford the $10, I'm sure a state ID will be given for free.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If someone can't afford the $10, I'm sure a state ID will be given for free.
You're sure, eh?
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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Actually the GOP base is dying off. That ideology is obsolete!
Yes. That was pretty obvious after the elections last fall when Republicans won record amounts of seats in D.C. and the Statehouses. The Republican Party is clearly dying off. Nothing else explains why they keep winning elections.
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