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Old 05-20-2011, 11:16 AM
 
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Its just a eelkction speech and litttle else. Whop knows what the administration is tellig israel in private talks. Remmeber the NAFTA speech last time and what he assured Canada on campaign rethoric. Its kind of like many talk at peace talks then call for the destrustion of Israel really.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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Obama Gifts Hamas With Most Sacred Sites of Christianity

he has to pay homage to his Muslim leaders
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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What does that have to do with the topic of obama dictating the 1967 "lines", that would turn over these holy sites to hamas?

I guess I'm quite confused. How can our President turn over anything to anyone? It's not our Country.

We need the money at home and NEED to start pulling the aide from a lot of these foreign countries. Pull the plug. Most of them hate us anyway.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I guess I'm quite confused. How can our President turn over anything to anyone? It's not our Country.

We need the money at home and NEED to start pulling the aide from a lot of these foreign countries. Pull the plug. Most of them hate us anyway.
Well, if he HAD his way, he would be gifting hamas. Based on his "demands", he would be gifting hamas.

This is exactly how they are taking his speech over there.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Well, if he HAD his way, he would be gifting hamas. Based on his "demands", he would be gifting hamas.

This is exactly how they are taking his speech over there.
And that is exactly how you're also taking his speech here. You should be there instead?
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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If I had my way, we'd take the Holy Lands away from all of them and make them a separate state onto itself like the Vatican is. Surely the Hold Lands make enough in tourist dollars to support itself. No one religion could lay claim to the area then and it would be open to all who want to live there in peace.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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History tells us that Christian Holy sites were safer with Muslims than with Crusaders who were supposed to safeguard them
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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If I had my way, we'd take the Holy Lands away from all of them and make them a separate state onto itself like the Vatican is. Surely the Hold Lands make enough in tourist dollars to support itself. No one religion could lay claim to the area then and it would be open to all who want to live there in peace.
I actually think this too. It should be internationally owned and operated.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Hamas, Fatah sign truce deal - Israel News, Ynetnews



Well, apparently obama expects just that. Why is he ignoring the FACT that hamas and fatah have realigned and any aid to the palestinian authority means aid to hamas, a terrorist organization?

Here is a map of Jerusalem, along with the holy sites;

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/jerusalem-holy-sites-e1305894987721.gif (broken link)

Here is obama's map;

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/jerusalem-map.jpg (broken link)

What a dunderhead move by obama.

I truly hope Bibi embarrasses this idiot.

Obama's gift includes these sites; The Garden of Gethsamene, Chapel of the Ascension, The Tomb of the Virgin, The Tower of David, The Wailing Wall, The Via Delarosa (the final steps of Jesus Christ), The tomb of Jesus Christ, The Church of St. Anne
The Church of the Flagellation, The Church of All Nations, The site of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
You don't know squat do you?

Arabs in Jerusalem LOVE Christian tourists, because they make for easy marks to sell cheap crap to.

Even if all of Jerusalem were given to the Palestinians, Christians could still go visit.

Christians don't own anything, they may be holy sites to them, but they don't own them.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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History tells us that Christian Holy sites were safer with Muslims than with Crusaders who were supposed to safeguard them
I'm not too sure about that.
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