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Singapore did it and cut health care inflation down from 12% to 4%. Saving consumers and businesses that much would be a blessing. Not to mention everyone is covered and they improved patient outcomes.
There's 5,000,000 people in Singapore of which more than a third are foreigners. Their population density is 7,022 km2.
Why don't you try using something closer to scale like a state instead of the entire union to compare to some obscurely grabbed examples.
Yes, it tends to get quiet when someone injects a healthy dose of reality into the mix. World hunger is tragic enough, but to have so many citizens suffering while people create insane conspiracy theories out of whole cloth is tragic. However, these statistics are sickening. Clearly the religious community hasn't stepped in to fill the void as Bush had hoped, and far too many are content to let poor children (and children are innocent) go without nourishment or medical care, while the top 2% think nothing of spending thousands of dollars on clothes and accessories...like a $10,000 purse, or an $1800 pair of Jimmy Choo shoes. Kim Kardashian earned it for showing up at a party? This country has gone stark raving mad.
Obamacare doesn't give control of health care to the government. People will still buy health insurance from private health insurance companies, and will see their own private physicians. What Obamacare does is to mandate the purchasing of insurance, much like auto insurance is mandated - the idea being to expand the pool of insured people to include currently healthy individuals whose premiums add to the pot and make the program solvent.
The problem with medicaid is that the pool of people in it are sicker and poorer, hence the lower reimbursements. But that's what the concept of Obamacare (and ultimately, universal health care) is trying to avoid. Put everyone in one big pool so that risk is spread out across the entire population of the healthy and unhealthy, reducing cost per unit.
Well said........ A UHC uses the tried and tested method of bargaining power.
In Countries with a UHC the 'premiums" paid are much much smaller than Insurance premiums as each smaller payment by millions creates a huge balance. It also means that this balance is available to everyone.... best insurance policy ever..... there if you need it forever, not until your premiums stop. Great if you are healthy and great if you become ill.... you win either way...what we call a win win situation. Low premium (tax) for maximum results.
The cost of drugs come down and the premiums for private health care comes down too, if that is what you want to use. This is because the Insurance companies lose their monopoly on health care and have to compete...you remember the "Free" Market" that the Insurance companies are so afraid of.
Amazing how some prefer to be manipulated by the big insurance companies......... "Suckers"
So your argument here is that WE, the taxpayers, are all non smoking, non drinking skinny people?
None of the sainted taxpayers have any medical problems, caused by their "bad mistakes"?
Only non taxpayers have these "psychological" issues that burden the healthcare system?
No. There are PLENTY of taxpayers who fall into this category. Whether those taxpayers have insurance or not is another issue. One person's taxes don't make up for the medical care they receive at an ER when they go several times a year for stupid things like a cough, aching back or stomach flu. I was in a car accident a couple weeks ago and I just got the statement from my insurance company...$1200 and I literally had about 5 minutes of attention from the doctor and nurses. I was brought in on a backboard and c-collar WHILE PREGNANT and I still only got 5 minutes of attention. For $1200. I don't know offhand how much we paid in taxes this year, but I want to say $1200 would be about 1/4 or 1/5 of it, and we are solid middle class. It's easy to see how this stuff can add up if you go seek medical treatment without insurance.
Also, many of the drinkers/smokers/obese folks/etc. are NOT taxpayers, they are the "underclass" who live off welfare. They often have Medicaid, which is, guess what? paid for by the taxpayers.
Eighty-six per cent of Canadians needing hip replacement are getting the operation within six months. In Nova Scotia only 51 per cent get it done in within that national benchmark.
Since October 2008, Wait times for Priority 1 patients dropped from 3 days to 2, Priority 2 patients dropped from 25 days to 16 and Priority 3 patients dropped significantly from 76 days to 34.
Also, many of the drinkers/smokers/obese folks/etc. are NOT taxpayers, they are the "underclass" who live off welfare. They often have Medicaid, which is, guess what? paid for by the taxpayers.
Remember the lunch program that is being put into some school cafeterias to videotape what kids eat as a way to combat obesity? The program is being piloted at schools with a high percentage of poor folks. 2+2=...
Anyway, you're taking what I said and spinning it. As a nurse, you cannot deny that many (NOT all) of the people who are in bad health are in poverty and are using Medicaid. These folks don't care really take very good care of themselves, whether they drink, smoke, are fat, or none of the above. These folks, along with those without insurance who have a catastrophic illness, are the ones causing the huge problems with taxpayers having to pay for people's medical bills.
Remember the lunch program that is being put into some school cafeterias to videotape what kids eat as a way to combat obesity? The program is being piloted at schools with a high percentage of poor folks. 2+2=...
Anyway, you're taking what I said and spinning it. As a nurse, you cannot deny that many (NOT all) of the people who are in bad health are in poverty and are using Medicaid. These folks don't care really take very good care of themselves, whether they drink, smoke, are fat, or none of the above. These folks, along with those without insurance who have a catastrophic illness, are the ones causing the huge problems with taxpayers having to pay for people's medical bills.
I sure as hell can deny that. But since you brought it up, why don't you show some stats that prove your point?
You're the one who is spinning. You're the one who is assuming that a pilot project focused on schools with high poverty rates proves something about poor people.
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